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2000-11-19, 1:29 pm

Greetings to everyone...glad to see lots of passes lately!!
I was wondering why some people are still choosing to take TCP/IP as an elective when it is going to expire at the end of the year. I know that it is an awesome test!
My thoughts were to take 2 electives that did not expire, such as Proxy Server and Exchange 5.5. That way if you are planning to upgrade to the 2000 track, you don't have to re-take the electives. (And there is no mad rush to take these before the end of the year).Is my thinking flawed??

2000-11-19, 1:52 pm

I would respectfully disagree because of the following reasons:
- TCP/IP knowledge such as necessary for the test is fundamental to understanding Win2K and should be a plus on any network engineer
- If you get your electives after the 1st of the year, they will not give you your MCSE 4.0 retroactively. They will however count towards your MCSE 2000, but why not be doubly certified in a market where 4.0 and 2K will have to coexist in most networks?

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2000-11-19, 2:06 pm

Thanks for your reply Freak. I agree that the TCP/IP exam contains information that is important to successful networking with Microsoft (and other vendor's) products.
However, I must respectfully disagree with you about the time limit on the 4.0 electives. I got this directly from Microsoft's site.....

Q. If I have passed all core exams in the Windows NT 4.0 MCSE track by December 31, 2000, but have not yet passed my elective exams by that date, can I still continue to earn my certification?
A. Yes, if you have passed all core exams in the Windows NT 4.0 MCSE track exams by December 31, 2000, you may continue to earn your MCSE certification in the Windows NT 4.0 track, as long as the electives you select have not retired.
This seems to be in contrast with your earlier post. Please comment, because this is the information that I have given my students.

2000-11-19, 2:32 pm

I read the same information from microsoft like cisoteacher and I got an other question if some body know Please inform me.
If some body will pass his 4 NT core exam and one elective exam this year and then next year how many exams he has to pass just one more or two exam?

Thanks in advance
zed

2000-11-19, 2:34 pm

I have to go along with Freak here. Why not get both certs? The important thing for me right now though is just become an MCSE(in the NT track). But I believe that TCP/IP is so important that I want to test in it in order to be able to demonstrate my knowledge of it. It is true that in the Win2K track, your knowledge of it will be tested throughout the core exams so that it is no longer an elective in that track. However one thing should be made clear here. I do not believe that any electives you use for the NT MCSE certification will be automatically counted towards the Win2K track, whether it is expired or not, so I disagree that you will not have to retake your electives. It is true however that once you have passed the core in the NT track you still have time to take your electives as long as they have not expired, but I do not think you can crossover your electives.
Robert

2000-11-19, 2:45 pm

your absolutley right , cicso teacher..
i myself are planning on doing proxy 2 and xchange 5.5 after enterprise this week

2000-11-19, 3:27 pm

Your two electives from NT 4.0 do carry-over to W2K as long as they have not expired. If you take two electives that expire with your NT 4.0 you have to take two more electives with your W2K.

2000-11-19, 3:34 pm

In that case I stand corrected. However I still consider TCP/IP to be so important that I would not consider not testing in it.
Thanks for the info. BTW, and I do not mean to offend, but may I ask what is the source of your information?
Robert
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