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HELP windows won't load
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| DOS on NOS 2005-03-28, 11:32 pm |
| So i was using my comp the other day an i left the room when i return i got a blue screeen saying a file was deleted or corrupt the file was System32\drivers\pci.sys
soo i was thinking that's no big problem i will juss reload windows (xp) but during the initial setup it sayz it has problemz copying file setupdd.sys and that setup cannot be completed and that the error code is 4
sooo i changed hard drive got the same problem....i changed the cd rom got the same problem....i tried to load windows ME (i was that desperate)lol an it says that no drives were detected an setup has been aborted
sooo its not the hard drive/cd rom/ram
everything seems normal in the bios
Any suggestionz?i'm at my wit's end | |
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| curiousgeorge 2005-03-29, 10:37 am |
| I had the same thing happen. It was a bad CD. | |
| DOS on NOS 2005-03-29, 10:44 am |
| its not the cd i tried Windows XP and also windows me 2 different cds neither would load
i also changed the ide cable
same problemm | |
| sandy7000 2005-03-29, 10:44 am |
| I wasn't sure because of the blue screen that came up after regular operations.
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So i was using my comp the other day an i left the room when i return i got a blue screeen saying a file was deleted or corrupt the file was System32\drivers\pci.sys
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| acruth7284 2005-03-29, 11:20 am |
| Sounds to me like a failing IDE controller, but I could be wrong. | |
| hwg103 2005-03-29, 11:24 am |
| If it's not a bad IDE controller, the hard drive could be failing.
Does your system have SMART drive detection?
I would also try the hard drive vendors website for hard drive diagnostic tools. | |
| enforcer 2005-03-29, 2:17 pm |
| Hmmm let me try a remember what this might be.
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Ah yeah, try swapping out the memory and trying some new modules. | |
| sandy7000 2005-03-29, 2:49 pm |
| That sounds a bit sarcastic, enforcer. Is that what you meant? | |
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| enforcer 2005-03-29, 5:48 pm |
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Originally posted by sandy7000
That sounds a bit sarcastic, enforcer. Is that what you meant?
No, it's actually a serious suggestion.
but with a bit of humour | |
| sandy7000 2005-03-29, 8:50 pm |
| Yeah, it's hard when it's just written.  I didn't think it was a memory issue, so..good suggestion. | |
| DOS on NOS 2005-03-30, 12:32 am |
| ok using windows me i can use dos to fdisk
from there i'm able to repartition the drive and set it active an it also does a drive integrity checkk an there's noo errors there....
what's the ide controller?
can it be a fault in the motherboard?
because its like a month old but its been working a little weirddd.....
too mee it seems the computer has some kinda problem reading or reading to the hard drive....its not the ide cable/hard drive/ram/cd rom or cd.....iz their any thing i can check on the motherboard itself???? | |
| DOS on NOS 2005-03-30, 12:39 am |
| by the way i know its not the ide cable/hard drive/cd rom/cd/ram because i switch every single component with another known working component....
i've had all me can stand and me can't stands no more lol my comp hates me...
sooo can we rule that its a motherboard fault noww???????? | |
| acruth7284 2005-03-30, 1:35 am |
| There is also the off shot that it could be the power supply. It might help a whole bunch if you gave the exact system specs (including manufacturers and model numbers). I am almost sure that it would be the IDE controller(the connector on the motherboard , which really worries me that you are not familar with that term beings you have your A+ and Net+) a problem with the motherboard directly or the off chnace that it is the power supply. My reasoning for this, and correct my if I miss read the problem, is that there is sometimes a problem with the CD drive and hard drive. | |
| Dsinn 2005-03-31, 12:09 am |
| thanks acruth for bringing up the point about not knowing what an ide controller is ,after i noticed the A+ cert i was going to make the same comment. definitely sounds like a possible issue with a controller ,regardless of how new the board is there could still be problems. And as far as the power supply goes i have seen my fair share of them causing some wierd issues. | |
| DOS on NOS 2005-03-31, 1:29 pm |
| okay last night i tried to set up xp again an the setup went through
i didn't change n e thing...........but when xp finished loading i started to install my a/v an then it restarted an said a file was missing or corrupted again
sooo i reloaded xp setup went through again....when i starting installing my a/v againnnnnn ..... an error can up and then the one minute countdown came up like when u have the msblast bug....but i didn't even go on the internet to get that...sooo used fixblast to check the system an i put in the patch for ms blast and i'm using it right nowww | |
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| OK - time to solve this issue.
I am going to suggest that you flash the BIOS. This might sound a little drastic, but I have noticed that most motherboards these days do not seem to loose an IDE controller like the old ones used to, but they either work or they dont. Sometimes that error message comes up after a corruption, but mostly seems to be the motherboard loosing its timing or corrupt BIOS. | |
| enforcer 2005-03-31, 5:40 pm |
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Originally posted by RussS
OK - time to solve this issue.
Oh! and just as we were having so much fun playing Spot Diagnosis.
PS anyone remember the Carry on film where two doctors are playing that? | |
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| << loves diagnosing .... especially nurses  | |
| burnjob 2005-04-03, 3:45 pm |
| Definately a troubling prob eh? ... and a good challenge if you like troubleshooting hardware probs ... I have had similar/same situations ... where no matter what you swap nothing seems to help.
Most times when I have encountered this same problem it has been due to either a bad CD drive or the power supply ... obviously if you have changed the cd drive and it's still happening then you can easily rule that out.
I have found that a bad power supply can cause erratic errors - like a CD drive not working and then an hour later the floppy doesn't work ... and then you get a BSOD ... stuff like that.
I would recommend that you get yourself (if you don't have one handy) a decent quality power supply (spend more than $25 at the computer store ... take some time to research a decent stable brand that is available in your geographic area.
Other than that ... I agree that the IDE controller / motherboard could be the problem ... try flashing the BIOS to rule that out and providing you are successful and you are still having the same problem then you could summize that it could be the IDE controller
Have you tried the CD drive on the same ide controller as the hard drive? even though it slows down performance you could test to see if the install works on the primary IDE channel to see if there is a prob with the secondary channel ... I don't purport to know everything about this topic but I have had used mobos that had one IDE channel that worked and one that didn't and also one memory slot that worked where another did not
There are still some other possibilities but I would think that these suggestions would meet the most common scenarios
Just some thoughts
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and just fyi ... i didn't mention anything about memory or HD probs due to the fact that it was mentioned earlier that those parts had been already swapped out
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| DOS on NOS 2005-04-03, 11:52 pm |
| thanx for all the help and suggestionz guys but i've decided too exchange this mobo for a next one...this mobo is only 3 weekz old...an i'm really unsatisfied with its performance an there's some thingz it does that iz just not right...the system clock keepz comming up with wrong time everytime i boot up....every now and again it will say the system have recovered from an critical error when i boot up...and it just tripz off when i run too many applications at the same time....
sooo thanx n e wayzz | |
| burnjob 2005-04-04, 12:34 am |
| wouldn't happen to be an Abit KV7-V would it? | |
| hwg103 2005-04-04, 2:03 am |
| As Homer says:
DOH!!!!!!
You should have stated this all in the beginning, it would have saved lots of postings.
It definitely sounds like a MB problem.
If you are building a white box don't go with the cheapest parts, that'll cause lots of headaches. Check the MB and processor manufacturer for recommended products. I know AMD has a site set up for recommended products.
Never mix memory manufacturers in with white boxes. |
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