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Why were we in Vietnam?
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| JFKshooting 2004-06-17, 2:23 am |
| Yes why? why did we go there and why did we stay there for 10 years? (No I'm not against war when it has a just cause I'm just wondering why we were there) | |
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| Tropical weather and beautiful beaches, who won't want to stay there for 10 years?
sucki sucki, me luv u long time. | |
| azimuth40 2004-06-17, 3:24 am |
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Originally posted by mikop
Tropical weather and beautiful beaches, who won't want to stay there for 10 years?
sucki sucki, me luv u long time.
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| forbesl 2004-06-17, 9:22 am |
| I've heard that Vietnam is an excellent source for troll repellent... | |
| Supertech 2004-06-17, 9:30 am |
| defoliate research and napalm disposal. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2004-06-17, 11:23 am |
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Originally posted by JFKshooting
Yes why? why did we go there and why did we stay there for 10 years? (No I'm not against war when it has a just cause I'm just wondering why we were there)
In the 9/11 thread, did you not claim Vietnam to be more your field? Me thinks you have asked a loaded question.
Why | |
| HOOLIGAN 2004-06-17, 11:23 am |
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Originally posted by JFKshooting
Yes why? why did we go there and why did we stay there for 10 years? (No I'm not against war when it has a just cause I'm just wondering why we were there)
In the 9/11 thread, did you not claim Vietnam to be more your field? Me thinks you have asked a loaded question. | |
| forbesl 2004-06-17, 11:31 am |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
In the 9/11 thread, did you not claim Vietnam to be more your field? Me thinks you have asked a loaded question.
Of course it was. He's trolling. This question is a horse that's been beat to death over and over a million times. If he wants to revisit it, we should let him argue with himself... | |
| HOOLIGAN 2004-06-17, 11:45 am |
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Originally posted by forbesl
Of course it was. He's trolling. This question is a horse that's been beat to death over and over a million times. If he wants to revisit it, we should let him argue with himself...
no offence JFK but I have to Agree with forbesl. Time to Hijack the thread.
The Hardware IT support is DEAD!
Equipment is getting too reliable and your average worker is getting more PC savvy. The A+ will soon be worthless.
I mean did we have a huge industry of Typewriter and filing cabinet repairmen 30 years ago? | |
| ruscorp 2004-06-17, 12:01 pm |
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Originally posted by mikop
sucki sucki, me luv u long time.
What we get for $10? | |
| enforcer 2004-06-17, 4:20 pm |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
no offence JFK but I have to Agree with forbesl. Time to Hijack the thread.
The Hardware IT support is DEAD!
Equipment is getting too reliable and your average worker is getting more PC savvy. The A+ will soon be worthless.
Have to disagree, there will still be room for those to repair what those who think they know what they are doing break. | |
| forbesl 2004-06-17, 4:31 pm |
| Hooligan,
I must give you 5 stars for your hijacking skills.
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Originally posted by enforcer
Have to disagree, there will still be room for those to repair what those who think they know what they are doing break.
Agreed. "Repair" isn't what it used to be, though. More often than not, it's simply "replace". Most everything now is "pluck and chuck".
I started out as an electronic technician, and I've seen it go from board repair at the transistor/resistor/diode/etc level to board replacement. Put in a new board, throw out the old one.
Often it's cheaper to just go buy a new piece of electronic gear rather than pay for the cost of the labor to get it fixed. | |
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| well you have to wonder why you would repair when it is often cheaper to buy new... | |
| me? I dunno... 2004-06-17, 8:44 pm |
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Why were we in Vietnam?
weapons of mass destruction, and the obvious link between the vietcong and alqeada. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2004-06-17, 11:38 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
well you have to wonder why you would repair when it is often cheaper to buy new...
Nail on the head. Hardware techs are 'swap out' technicians now. | |
| freak 2004-06-17, 11:47 pm |
| it's bad for the environment, but no more rasping knuckles is something I can live with  | |
| azimuth40 2004-06-18, 2:43 am |
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Originally posted by me? I dunno...
weapons of mass destruction, and the obvious link between the vietcong and alqeada.
Compared to the VC the alqeada are pussies. Spent any time in a class one purge unit fixing disk drives lately. I understand that the air is better for your brain than Micheal Jacksons oxygen tank. | |
| enforcer 2004-06-18, 1:24 pm |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Nail on the head. Hardware techs are 'swap out' technicians now.
Yeah, but they still have to know which board to swap out | |
| DaDnDe 2004-06-18, 1:44 pm |
| hmm i dont think we are "swap out" techs. to be honest with ya, i feel more like a "reformat and reload" tech.
plus, it doesnt matter how sophisticated computer users become, until their job title includes hardware troubleshooting and repair, we will continue to be needed.
I have a customer that i have built two computers for. I just came from his daughters dorm room because she needed some work(and advice) about her system which i also built.
But this guy is a cost controller for the dept of transportation. but he doesnt really know that much about his computer so he needs my help. however, when it comes to SQL or Access or several other programs that he uses, he is very very good. a few times, he has given me examples of some of the problems he runs into and considering he works in a department that has a 14 billion dollar yearly budget that deals with 150 Billion in "critical projects" and 2 Trillion in "necessary projects"
although he is not directly responsible for doling out the money, it is his job to advise the powers that be on the feasibility of the allotments and which projects will calm the greatest number of rapid local interests.
in fact, i think with the advent of much faster computers and supposedly bulletproof OSes, i think the tech's role is now more vital than before. in the old days of barely adequate hardware, if you picked up an undesireable, it was readily noticed and therefore much easier to track down.
nowadays, we have so much power to burn that many times we can go days or weeks before we find out that our system has a hitchhiker. by then, the offending program has rearranged the furniture, tossed out your favorite easy chair, and is slowly taking over your computer. Evicting something that is entrenched so deeply can be nearly impossible. sometimes demolition and a complete rebuild is the only way.
i ran into this last month and saved it because in this day and age, if someone had told me this had happened, i would have never believed them.
http://www.geocities.com/daveinolywa/images/garbage2.jpg
but that was only half the problem
http://www.geocities.com/daveinolywa/images/garbage.jpg | |
| HOOLIGAN 2004-06-18, 8:18 pm |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Yeah, but they still have to know which board to swap out
Only one board in a pc nowadays. No more jumpers,IRQ's etc etc. | |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Yeah, but they still have to know which board to swap out
Usually the non-functional board would be the best place to start. | |
| ChrisDfer 2004-06-19, 2:32 am |
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Originally posted by QPSK
Usually the non-functional board would be the best place to start.
Unless you are a MCSE, if that is the case you check to make sure a fresh pot of coffee is brewing. | |
| enforcer 2004-06-19, 9:11 am |
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Originally posted by ChrisDfer
Unless you are a MCSE, if that is the case you check to make sure a fresh pot of coffee is brewing.
De Caf? | |
| shelby00639 2004-06-21, 11:59 am |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Yeah, but they still have to know which board to swap out
I've been working serivce and repair for a city of about 245,000 people for the last 8 years or so. Service has dropped dramatically the last 2-3 years because of equipment upgrades and the fact that they don't break down.
However, there are still a lot of companies out there that don't replace their equipment because it's cheaper to maintain old equipment then change over their whole system.
Many vary large companies are still using equipment that is well over 10 years old; simply because it still works for what they use it for. | |
| bearing 2004-06-21, 12:40 pm |
| I'm having trouble fitting a bearing outer race to a swivel housing, anyone out there got a press I can borrow. Or am I going to have to use a piece of threaded bar, a couple of bolts and some big washers? | |
| jkhnwspec 2004-06-21, 12:49 pm |
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Originally posted by bearing
I'm having trouble fitting a bearing outer race to a swivel housing, anyone out there got a press I can borrow. Or am I going to have to use a piece of threaded bar, a couple of bolts and some big washers?
If the old bearing race is out, you could use it, a thick block of wood, and a hammer to gently tap the new one into place. Depends on whether the swivel housing can be put into a fixed location to act as a stop. At least you could get the new bearing race started straight that way, then finish up with the bolts and big washers using the old race as a spacer. | |
| enforcer 2004-06-21, 2:00 pm |
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Originally posted by jkhnwspec
If the old bearing race is out, you could use it, a thick block of wood, and a hammer to gently tap the new one into place. Depends on whether the swivel housing can be put into a fixed location to act as a stop. At least you could get the new bearing race started straight that way, then finish up with the bolts and big washers using the old race as a spacer.
Damn! you just beat me to it. That's what I was about to say  | |
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| bearing 2004-06-22, 4:08 am |
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Originally posted by jkhnwspec
If the old bearing race is out, you could use it, a thick block of wood, and a hammer to gently tap the new one into place. Depends on whether the swivel housing can be put into a fixed location to act as a stop. At least you could get the new bearing race started straight that way, then finish up with the bolts and big washers using the old race as a spacer.
Good idea, at least it's cheaper than having to pay shipping costs for a bloody huge press.
Are you a bit of a home mechanic yourself? | |
| jkhnwspec 2004-06-22, 5:38 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
Good idea, at least it's cheaper than having to pay shipping costs for a bloody huge press.
Are you a bit of a home mechanic yourself?
Spent 18 years working in an industrial maintenance setting before getting my present job. Kind of a jack-of-all trades position. The last 6 years of it were spent working on electric and lpg forklifts. |
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