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Google's Gmail - email service (1GB storage)
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| shahrial 2004-04-03, 3:16 am |
| Google is creating a free email service known as Gmail with a storage space of 1GB (unbelieveable ). Currently under beta
For more info, check it out at:
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/about.html | |
| Boulware5 2004-04-03, 11:52 am |
| At first I thought this was an April Fools Joke.  | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-03, 12:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Boulware5
At first I thought this was an April Fools Joke.
Same here.
I'm sure that'll fold in no time at all with abuse. | |
| shahrial 2004-04-03, 12:15 pm |
| I'm a bit sceptical about the whole thing.
It's economics of scale would be staggering.
How to maintain it for free ?
Security...etc ?
Let's see after the beta... | |
| Freddy 2004-04-03, 1:30 pm |
| Google will be using targeted advertising inside of the emails themselves to pay for the service. The Google computers will analyze the content of the letter and then display ads based upon that content in order to try to target ads to the reader of the message. This is causing some stir with privacy advocates.
http://www.drudgereportarchives.com...42404_flash.htm | |
| Particle 2004-04-06, 5:36 am |
| Adding spam to your legitimate emails. Just what we need.
I can't see anyone signing up for it, or if they do not using it for long.
I read a report in the paper that suggested if someone emailed you talking about their indigestion (for example) you would get adverts for antacid. What if someone sent you a few dirty jokes? | |
| MistyRing 2004-04-06, 8:01 am |
| don't see the problem myself. i already get "do you yahoo?" appended to my e-mails. i doubt many people will care if it's antacid instead. | |
| shahrial 2004-04-06, 8:02 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Particle
I read a report in the paper that suggested if someone emailed you talking about their indigestion (for example) you would get adverts for antacid. What if someone sent you a few dirty jokes?
Good question... | |
| Freddy 2004-04-07, 3:29 pm |
| Google says that they will apply the filters to prevent "adult" content ads from appearing in emails...
I think most people that use the service will just look at it as a way to pay for the service to keep it free. Honestly, I don't think that most free email users really care about the advertising included in them as long as they don't have to pay anything to use the service. | |
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Originally posted by Particle
Adding spam to your legitimate emails. Just what we need.
I can't see anyone signing up for it, or if they do not using it for long.
You're missing the point.
Google is not offering you free email. They are buying your willingness to put up with ads in your email by offering you an email service at no cost to you.
That's a simple business model that may or may not appeal to some, but I bet it will be successful. | |
| prezbedard 2004-04-08, 1:09 am |
| can anybody say junk email accout?
Whenever you *need* to give an email address and don't want to give out your real one google it!! | |
| prezbedard 2004-04-08, 1:11 am |
| Hey it says 1,000 megabytes!! Where are the other 24?
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| Boulware5 2004-04-08, 1:12 am |
| Great avatar, Mr. Bedard. | |
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Originally posted by Boulware5
Great avatar, Mr. Bedard.
I second that! | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 11:30 am |
| Nothing compares to my anti-New England sports avatar. | |
| prezbedard 2004-04-08, 11:32 am |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Nothing compares to my anti-New England sports avatar.
except the fact that its not 100% negative
Go B's!!!!!!!!!! | |
| freak 2004-04-08, 11:40 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Nothing compares to my anti-New England sports avatar.
thank God. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 11:41 am |
| I think you guys were lucky when I was in New England 2 weeks ago I was no where around you. | |
| bearing 2004-04-08, 12:03 pm |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
I think you guys were lucky when I was in New England 2 weeks ago I was no where around you.
We can smell you over here in Britain even with the Atlantic between us so I doubt they were really that lucky. | |
| Dr. C 2004-04-08, 12:09 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
thank Dog.
You must be an atheist dyslexic, hey? | |
| freak 2004-04-08, 12:11 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
I think you guys were lucky when I was in New England 2 weeks ago I was no where around you.
Wish I had known, I would have bought you a friendly pint.
Then again, maybe not... | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 12:19 pm |
| Well I see this topic has been deviated without enforcer . There's a first! | |
| bearing 2004-04-08, 12:23 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
Wish I had known, I would have bought you a friendly pint.
I think Farley's more of a half a shandy man. | |
| freak 2004-04-08, 12:23 pm |
| it's not like it takes a 150 IQ to take a topic 180 degrees | |
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| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 12:35 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
I would have bought you a friendly pint.
No thanks. I can do without prezbedard. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 12:46 pm |
| Some guy just called me a disgrace to MCP's everywhere.
WICKED COOL! | |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Some guy just called me a disgrace to MCP's everywhere.
WICKED COOL!
Didn't know you were an MCP...
... I kid, I kid | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 2:10 pm |
| I take great pride in those comments.
Here's a picture for you guys from Killington, Vermont. | |
| jmcuellar 2004-04-08, 9:49 pm |
| Maeketing companies will be making a killing and Google will get a piece of the pie. Great concept of globalization. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 9:52 pm |
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Originally posted by jmcuellar
Maeketing companies will be making a killing and Google will get a piece of the pie. Great concept of globalization.
Isn't that how it works?
I dunno about that GB of email though. I think it opens the door to abuse. I know I would abuse it. | |
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| ruscorp 2004-04-08, 10:01 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
we all know you would abuse it
Abuse it like how I abuse prezbedard. | |
| DaDnDe 2004-04-08, 10:30 pm |
| well seeing as you all hate this idea, then how come i cant get signed up?
the news says that over 100,000 have signed up already but i have tried with 4 different e-mail addys and havent heard nothing from them so far.
has anyone tried to sign up yet? better yet, has anyone actually used this service yet? | |
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| Particle 2004-04-13, 11:49 am |
| Had another thought about Gmail.
People are worried about Google sifting through their email. At least all they'll get is adverts.
Governments are eavesdropping already and paying you a visit if you are up to no good. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-13, 11:56 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Particle
Had another thought about Gmail.
People are worried about Google sifting through their email. At least all they'll get is adverts.
...and you don't think Hotmail or Yahoo! does that. | |
| Particle 2004-04-13, 12:05 pm |
| Good point. Don't use my Yahoo account very much, so haven't noticed what they get up to. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-13, 12:12 pm |
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Originally posted by Particle
Good point. Don't use my Yahoo account very much, so haven't noticed what they get up to.
I've used Hotmail for years. Even before the Microsoft hotshots took it over. | |
| DaDnDe 2004-04-13, 12:29 pm |
| ive used hotmail for years also. they have their ups and downs like all mail services do but considering their size, it is to be expected.
i'll be honest with ya, G-mail sounds like a dream come true to me. the ability to save all my email and then do text searches with google's search engine would be awesome!
i dont use POP3 mail because of its insecurities(outlook express soured me on that for life i think) so when i get email i want to keep i usually save it as text. but i have a lot of email and no matter how much i organize it or how descriptive the title is, i lose stuff all the time. but the thing is, i can always remember enough of the email that i only need to read a sentence or two to decide if that is the one im looking for.
besides most of the mail i save is either jokes or computer tips. if ANYONE wants to look through them...be my guest. its an easy trade off for a Gigabyte of searchable text. | |
| ruscorp 2004-04-13, 12:40 pm |
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Originally posted by DaDnDe
ive used hotmail for years also. they have their ups and downs like all mail services do but considering their size, it is to be expected.
i'll be honest with ya, G-mail sounds like a dream come true to me. the ability to save all my email and then do text searches with google's search engine would be awesome!
i dont use POP3 mail because of its insecurities(outlook express soured me on that for life i think) so when i get email i want to keep i usually save it as text. but i have a lot of email and no matter how much i organize it or how descriptive the title is, i lose stuff all the time. but the thing is, i can always remember enough of the email that i only need to read a sentence or two to decide if that is the one im looking for.
besides most of the mail i save is either jokes or computer tips. if ANYONE wants to look through them...be my guest. its an easy trade off for a Gigabyte of searchable text.
Yea, POP3 with it's lovely plain text passwords.
I signed up for Hotmail in like 1995 I think. | |
| prezbedard 2004-04-13, 12:44 pm |
| hotmail in 1996 but hardly use it now | |
| prezbedard 2004-04-14, 2:26 pm |
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The complaints against Google’s GMail and its use of AdWords Contextual Advertising to show text ads targeted to actual email content may have driven Google to reconsider the advertising format used to fund the 1 GB of storage space used in the new Google free email service.
Yesterday, California State Senator Liz Figueroa sent a letter to Google, urging them to discard a plan to scan customer emails for content, and insert ads related to the subject matter of the private conversations. The letter was the first step in drafting legislation that would prevent Google or any other company from examining the content of email in order to serve relevant advertising.
Google spokesman David Krane told CNet yesterday said that “Google plans to listen closely to the responses of test users and other interested parties during a three- to six-month test period.” Krane added that Google may make changes based on the recommendations it receives, but it hasn’t yet made any definitive decisions.
“We are in the very earliest phases of testing, and we are actively soliciting and analyzing feedback from users and third parties, including privacy groups,” Krane told CNet. “We’re definitely batting about a number of options for changes to the service, but we have not yet made any specific commitments or announcements about changes to come to Gmail.” Krane added that “The reaction so far has been very favorable from people who have tested and used it.”
When asked if it would be economical for Google to offer the GMail email with the 1 GB of storage without the content targeted advertising, Krane gave a “no comment.” Obviously there are other options for Google in this case, serving behavioral and gender specific text advertising, however, such practices may be shunned upon by Google’s advertisers since the targeting would not be as sharp as content targeted ads.
Additionally, Google has weighed the option of having GMail users opt-in for AdWords advertisements. Google President and co-founder Sergey Brin told the Wall Street Journal that Google “will not make any ‘rash changes’ to the email service which is still being tested by thousands of users.”
According to the Wall Street Journal, Brin also commented on the idea of letting Gmail users opt in or out of the targeted ad service was an idea that “is being batted about. We certainly wouldn’t rule it out.”
In addition to potential Californian legislation there have been some other news making protests of Google’s plans for GMail advertising. On April 6, the World Privacy Forum and 27 other privacy and civil liberties organizations composed an open letter calling upon Google to suspend its Gmail service until the privacy issues are adequately addressed. Also last week, Privacy International urged Britain’s information commissioner to take action against the service, heating up privacy advocates in the EU.
Google’s David Krane also highlighted the privacy enhancements of GMail over some other email services such as GMail does not automatically display images in email (reducing tracking technology and virus threats). Fury.com also points out that when compared to Hotmail and Yahoo Mail, Google Gmail requires the least personal info.
Hotmail and Yahoo both require that users handover their First Name, Last Name, Zip Code (which determines state, town, and country), Gender, Occupation, Birthdate, and serves choices to opt-in to advertisements and sponsors. Google GMail only requires that users enter a First and Last Name in order to use their service.
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