General Discussion - Graphics-What I Meant

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Graphics-What I Meant

vincentnl

2004-11-14, 8:44 am

My original question was here however I have decided to attach my real purpose below.

All my pictures are JPG or JPEG however during the process of creating my own website using Word2000, I found that during uploading using my FTP client, that many of these had mysteriously turned into PNG formats.

Now converting individual pictures into other formats is one thing, but how about in the scenario described where a group number of pictures have been transferred into a document and converted without the owners consent?
How do I convert these where some are JPG and others PNG?
Can I make the file smaller without compromising quality?
Feel free to do what you like with my attachment.

yanqui

2004-11-15, 5:11 pm

from the World Wide Web Consortium website

"PNG is an extensible file format for the lossless, portable, well-compressed storage of raster images. PNG provides a patent-free replacement for GIF and can also replace many common uses of TIFF. Indexed-color, grayscale, and truecolor images are supported, plus an optional alpha channel for transparency. Sample depths range from 1 to 16 bits per component (up to 48bit images for RGB, or 64bit for RGBA). "

Your images can be compressed using image compression programs found in web development packages, like dreamweaver or fireworks, and photoworks and other image manipulation packages. and it's important to do that, too, if possible, so that your pages don't take an eternity to load. As you progress with the learning process, if you decide to do a commercial site, you don't have forever to get a prospect to look at your site, you have until they get tired of waiting for your page to load. I don't know that compressing images to put into a word document would be as effective as using an html editor (like front page or dreamweaver) and calling a reference to them which places them into the page. HTML itself creates a small file, and compressing the images and saving them in a different file actually makes the pages load faster, whereas including them in a word document slows down the loading of the entire document.

I know that wasn't what you wanted to hear, but consider putting them in as thumbnails so that your viewers can click on the images to see the full-size image.

vincentnl

2004-11-16, 3:22 am

Thumbnails are a good idea.
You made me think and restudy my shown picture before I responded to this.

I have Irfan viewer.
Converting pictures is just a matter of "saving as" the original picture in exactly the same position and then deleting the original.

I have got more playing around to do.

All this web stuff is pretty complex to me but I am steadfast determined to stay with Word I am afraid as that is what has opened my eyes to the world of web designing and my interest in it.

No other place could've taught me more properly the usages of folders, which I use a lot here, and the importance of links.

The folders containing my images are on average about 7MB large whereas the files are only a few kb's.

Can't compress these, so something has to give.

PLAYTIME - me again!!!

vincentnl

2004-11-16, 3:27 am

Just sent off my cheque.
Hope that firm does not insist I use card payment.
There's a lot of fraud in the world.
Have noted that commercial wording of yours.
I speak for myself, I will more than happily turn away from a site that takes forever to load and I am just an individual with dial-up so I wouldn't want it happening to mine.
Official results will be interesting to see from free web hostings and using links.

Cheers...

yanqui

2004-11-16, 11:39 am

The things I saw on your site from before could all be done with html using only a few simple tags. The tags aren't hard to learn. You create an html file in a text editor like notepad, and even as an html file it doesn't take as much space as a word-generated html file, because word isn't very efficient at making the conversion. Stay with what you know for now, but later on you'll want to learn some html because word will be very limiting on what you want to do. Just keep trying different things, and remember to keep notes of what you were trying to do and whether or not it did what you expected. (that's another advantage of using a text file--you can "comment out" things that you want the browser to ignore, but keep a record in the file of things you may need later. Don't know if word will let you do that.)

And style sheets are another advantage of text files; but that's advanced design I haven't conquered yet myself.

vincentnl

2004-11-16, 5:24 pm

quote:
Originally posted by yanqui
And style sheets are another advantage of text files; but that's advanced design I haven't conquered yet myself.

I almost fell about laughing at this statement, hehehehehe.

Yeah, what you saw from what I originally gave you is not the same as now.
What you saw when I first gave you an insight was my very first attempt at designing a homepage, something I then deemed a triumph.
I have long since moved on from there and developed fully interactive linking multiple pages and am currently awaiting confirmation of my payment to Fastband Internet so I can make my site officially a www. one.
HTML is not hard to learn but I am lazy and had my sights set on more complex matters.
I even bought a book from the same authors as those that introduced me to designing wep pages using Word2000.
I am certainly not outruling learning HTML. If I am to convince a potential employer that I can design a wep page, the least I can do is demonstrate some HTML skills even if it is the most basic.

For now, like you've said, I will stick to what I have learned. That is the best way...

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