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| darthfeces 2004-09-28, 10:08 am |
| Subject: Choice or no choice?
Note, this legislation has been passed from committee and was referred
to
Donald Rumsfeld for DOD comment and is being held by his office prior to
going to the full legislature.
Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26)
starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about.
This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children
that will have to go if this bill passes.
There is pending legislation in the house and
senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163, 2003) which will time the
program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005,
just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is
quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's
attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed
immediately. Details and links follow.
This plan, among other things, eliminates higher
education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also,
crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.
Actions:
Please send this on to all the parents and teachers
you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .
And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a
powerful voice.
This legislation is called HR 163 (2003) and can be found
in detail at this website:
http://thomas.loc.gov
Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will
bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long.
If this bill passes, it will include ALL men and
ALL women from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In
addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft
and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada which will no
longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within
it's borders. This bill also includes the extention of military
service for all those that are currently active. If you go to the
select service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see
that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military
in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this
will effect our undergradates, our children and our grandchildren.
Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how
you feel about this legislation.
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
Please also write to your representatives and ask
them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and
write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're
not covering this important story.
The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004
selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that
could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report
to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for
decades, is ready for activation.
Please see
http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html
to view the Selective Service System annual performance plan,
fiscal year 2004.
The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to
fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots
nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military
experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if
Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan
(and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S.
may have no choice but to draft.
www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp
entitled the
Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common
defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United
States, including women, perform a period of military service or a
period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and
homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills
currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft
will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. college and
Canada will not be options. In December, 200 1, Canada and the U.S.
signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep
would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign
affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge,
the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among
other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and
departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more
equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher
education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone
service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have
until the end of the academic year. | |
| enforcer 2004-09-28, 10:52 am |
| and your point is? | |
| ruscorp 2004-09-28, 11:05 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
and your point is?
I have no idea. It seems there has been a lot of calmmer among young people about this.
I find it highly doubftful it will happen.
Perhaps this will put you at ease: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/draft.asp | |
| curiousgeorge 2004-09-28, 12:04 pm |
| The big difference is the military has already said they need more soldiers in Iraq and the US has spread itself too thin.
If anything happens in the next 4-6 years (that's how long the US will be in Iraq), the US won't have enough troops to defend itself. And considering things have been escalating in Iran and North Korea, it's very possible that war could break out with one of them in the years to come.
So a draft is very plausible, given the situation we are in. | |
| ruscorp 2004-09-28, 9:51 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by WaldoIsHere
That's a good link. I figured this whole thing smelled of "urban legend". What a crock.
It's a good website about crap people believe that they investigate. | |
| curiousgeorge 2004-09-29, 1:59 am |
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There is as yet no definitive answer to the question of whether or not the U.S. will reinstitute a draft. Obviously some thought has been given to the issue, but the possibility that such thoughts will be turned into reality appears rather small at this point. Still, conditions and attitudes can change very quickly — another event of the magnitude of the September 11 attacks could prompt some rapid shifts in government policy and public opinion.
Actually, their final analysis is what I said before. Given our current situation and escalations in Iran and North Korea, the draft is very plausible.
All it would take is one little missle from Iran while we occupy Iraq. Considering we broke our alliance with them during the Iran-Iraq war in the 80's, it's very possible that they take preemptive action against us.
That's just the reality of our situation right now. | |
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| draft will not happen!!!
We are at WAR, but the congress never emphasis the declare of WAR against "$#$#*("
If u looked other govn't & mil site. The recuritment or new Soldiers actually is increasing. |
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