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france supporting US?
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| theguy 2003-04-10, 12:12 pm |
| I just saw a news article, but it was kinda short. It said that france is happy to see that Sadams regime is falling. So, does that mean that they support us now, or are they just happy to see Sadam losing? | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-10, 12:27 pm |
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Originally posted by theguy
I just saw a news article, but it was kinda short. It said that france is happy to see that Sadams regime is falling. So, does that mean that they support us now, or are they just happy to see Sadam losing?
Neither it means that they want some of the Contracts to rebuild Iraq and a shot at the oil fields. | |
| theguy 2003-04-10, 12:55 pm |
| I see. So they dont want to help us out at all, but they want to reap the benefits of what we're doing. I realize that there is going to be a lot of rebuilding, but I just think its kinda lame is all. If they are so willing to go in after the war and try to "help" then why dont they go in and "help" us now. | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-10, 1:05 pm |
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Originally posted by theguy
I see. So they dont want to help us out at all, but they want to reap the benefits of what we're doing. I realize that there is going to be a lot of rebuilding, but I just think its kinda lame is all. If they are so willing to go in after the war and try to "help" then why dont they go in and "help" us now.
Because they were attempting to contract some oil fields in Iraq as were the Russians. They felt like if we went into Iraq then they would loose that option.. So to save their oil interests... Now they want to get close to the new Iraqi government and try and get their oil as well as some contracts to do rebuilding..
personally I say hand out the contracts to everyone except: Syria, France, Russia, and China, as well as, the other nations that didn't support the Iraqi people. | |
| theguy 2003-04-10, 2:03 pm |
| Alright, I'll agree with ya on this one. Earlier I was trying to find out why France didnt want to support us and I couldnt find anything. But know that I have some more information it makes more sense. thanks for clueing me in mindmesh. | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-10, 2:32 pm |
| Anytime.. Its when the Russians start trying to help that I'll be worried. | |
| theguy 2003-04-10, 2:48 pm |
| haha yeah, that might put some fear in everyone. | |
| thecomeons 2003-04-11, 2:49 am |
| well, they didn't rush in. | |
| bearing 2003-04-11, 2:53 am |
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well, they didn't rush in.
I think that'll be wasted.  | |
| enforcer 2003-04-11, 3:41 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
I think that'll be wasted.
mus go now i think the jokes are starting to get corny. | |
| bearing 2003-04-11, 3:46 am |
| Did you see Cher nobble that bloke on the telly last night?
note to self (enforcer). must remember to click quote and not edit post, especially when i have the 'power'  | |
| enforcer 2003-04-11, 4:10 am |
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Did you see Cher nobble that bloke on the telly last night?
houdshi nickabolakov? | |
| darthw 2003-04-11, 7:38 am |
| We can always let the French have the contracts for the nasty things, like toilet cleaning and garbage collection.
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So they dont want to help us out at all, but they want to reap the benefits of what we're doing.
There must be few French people hiding amongst the people I work with - always away when the work is being done, but always there for the rewards. | |
| theguy 2003-04-11, 8:11 am |
| Now that I think about it, I used to work with someone that didnt say that he was French, but after seeing how Frenchies act I think that he may have been one. For instance, one time I had to run a wire over the ceiling from one side of a library to the other and he just sat down and watched me do it. When we had to report back to the "boss" he took partial responsibility for having done it. I should have known, I was so blind. | |
| enforcer 2003-04-11, 8:27 am |
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Originally posted by theguy
Now that I think about it, I used to work with someone that didnt say that he was French, but after seeing how Frenchies act I think that he may have been one. For instance, one time I had to run a wire over the ceiling from one side of a library to the other and he just sat down and watched me do it. When we had to report back to the "boss" he took partial responsibility for having done it. I should have known, I was so blind.
did he wear a blue and white horizontally striped shirt, black berry, string of onions round his neck and speak with a French accent? | |
| Mauwakee 2003-04-11, 8:45 am |
| Hey, here is a thought. Since our troops did fine chemicals weapons, should we A) Put saddam back in to support all those protesters. B) What ever happen to all of them? C) I still think our troops needs a good meal, send in the french in anyway.
PS: Yes I know I did not cap saddam and french; I meant to do it.  | |
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| bearing 2003-04-11, 9:42 am |
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Yes I know I did not cap saddam what position did he play to earn a cap anyway? 
With his David Seaman moustache, it'd have to be in goal mate.. | |
| enforcer 2003-04-11, 9:49 am |
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With his David Seaman moustache, it'd have to be in goal mate..
Yeah, but where was his ponytail? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-11, 6:37 pm |
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With his David Seaman moustache, it'd have to be in goal mate..
Are you suggesting there is a connection between Saddam and David Seaman? Just because Osama was a Gooner... | |
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| Mauwakee 2003-04-13, 1:32 pm |
| SHE??????? LOL | |
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| Let's face it: if you are against he actions of the French government, I can understand that.
If you then take it upon yourself to insult an entire country by extrapolating from the international policies of their government, I have to admit that I find that to be an idiotic concept.
I guess, since I am French, that I am the kind of guy on this forum who is a complete freeloader, who has never helped anybody unless there was some kind of reward that could be gained from that... yeah, your concept has merit and promise, doesn't it?
Simply ridiculous... | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-13, 2:12 pm |
| I actually read over my posts to make sure I didn't sound like I was against the French people. I'm not going to lie, growing up in the US your pretty much taught that the French don't like you and are very rude to Americans. I try to judge a person on how they come off to me.
As far as French people go I have no real problem with them. My problems lie more with the government. Now don't get me wrong I've cracked French jokes, but I've also supplied American jokes to an Anti-American Arab as well. I think everyone here knows that you have contributed more than any single person to the education of other members. I, also, think that the French critics just think of you as an American. Though, that is meant as a compliment it isn't an excuse. | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-13, 2:14 pm |
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Originally posted by Mauwakee
SHE??????? LOL
Sorry I don't know how that "S" got there. Must have been typing to fast. | |
| prezbedard 2003-04-13, 8:50 pm |
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Originally posted by theguy
I see. So they dont want to help us out at all, but they want to reap the benefits of what we're doing. I realize that there is going to be a lot of rebuilding, but I just think its kinda lame is all. If they are so willing to go in after the war and try to "help" then why dont they go in and "help" us now.
Shouldn't it be the people of Iraq who reap the Benefits? It is their country. We are supposed to be liberating them from oppression. | |
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| One thing that keeps being forgotten is that there are many French companies that have had interest in Iraq for decades. We're talking hundreds of million of dollars.
If you think for one second that those private companies are going to somehow "forget" about those interests because the French Government wanted for the UN process to finish its due course, you're sorely mistaken.
It is not for the US to decide of what and who will take care of the reconstruction. It's the UN's job. Period.
Or else, make Iraq the 51st state and move on. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-14, 6:28 am |
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One thing that keeps being forgotten is that there are many French companies that have had interest in Iraq for decades. We're talking hundreds of million of dollars.
If you think for one second that those private companies are going to somehow "forget" about those interests because the French Government wanted for the UN process to finish its due course, you're sorely mistaken.
It is not for the US to decide of what and who will take care of the reconstruction. It's the UN's job. Period.
Or else, make Iraq the 51st state and move on.
Tough Luck for the French companies. All money owed to France ( and Russia ) will most likely be declared as Odious debts. | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-14, 7:31 am |
| Here is one about Russia
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If you think for one second that those private companies are going to somehow "forget" about those interests because the French Government wanted for the UN process to finish its due course, you're sorely mistaken
I'd say that depends on the new Govnt. not the French companies.
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It is not for the US to decide of what and who will take care of the reconstruction. It's the UN's job. Period.
I don't think the UN can do its job. Thats the whole point. | |
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| Well, actually I do think that it is up to French conpanies to forget about their investments. And it is up to the Iraqi gvt to decide whether they want to renew the conrtacts or not, if you really want to be picky about it | |
| mindmesh 2003-04-14, 9:37 am |
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Well, actually I do think that it is up to French conpanies to forget about their investments. And it is up to the Iraqi gvt to decide whether they want to renew the conrtacts or not, if you really want to be picky about it
True.. I wonder how the debt enforcement/forgiveness is going to be worked? | |
| freak 2003-04-14, 10:05 am |
| Frankly I don't know. I have not lived in Iraq for 15 years, so my understanding of that country is not as fresh as it should be.
Somewhere along the lines, I suspect that the "Old Boy" network will take over. People in high places will remain in high places, and they will once again renew ties with their contacts, most of which will be French, because of the history in common that the two countries have. From there will come either contract renewals, or new contracts being drafted. You have to understand that it takes profound ties, especially in the Middle East, for foreign companies to flourish. Those ties are already in place and have been so for decades...
At the end of the day, I just wish that this whole situation would stop being a pissing contest between the UN and America. I don't see any good coming from that, and frankly, I blame both sides for this situation. I blame the French government, the German gvt and the Russian gvt for being so pig-headed, and I blame the US gvt for starting a process in the UN, not liking the way it was going, and pulling the plug in the middle of that process. Finish what you start, already... | |
| bearing 2003-04-14, 11:16 am |
| Hey Freak, I'm off to a couple of your old stomping grounds in the next few weeks.
I'll be in Galway the week beginning 28 April and I'm off to Brittany for a weeks Holiday first week in May.
Anybody I need to say Hello to.(maybe the lecturers parents that were so fond of you. ) | |
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| enforcer 2003-04-14, 12:11 pm |
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Originally posted by freak
I guess, since I am French, that I am the kind of guy on this forum who is a complete freeloader, who has never helped anybody unless there was some kind of reward that could be gained from that
describes you to a tee Freak
j/king | |
| freak 2003-04-14, 12:28 pm |
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| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-14, 4:17 pm |
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Hey Freak, I'm off to a couple of your old stomping grounds in the next few weeks.
I'll be in Galway the week beginning 28 April and I'm off to Brittany for a weeks Holiday first week in May.
Anybody I need to say Hello to.(maybe the lecturers parents that were so fond of you. )
So you've knocked your LA plans on the head then Rob? Too close to Deja Vue I guess. | |
| bearing 2003-04-14, 4:24 pm |
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So you've knocked your LA plans on the head then Rob? Too close to Deja Vue I guess.
No, LA's still on, I'll be working in Galway and France is just a spring break for the wife and me... | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-14, 4:34 pm |
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No, LA's still on, I'll be working in Galway and France is just a spring break for the wife and me...
Looks like I will be vacationing at the Beach this year. Six weeks vacation and no spare dosh to go anywhere exotic. | |
| enforcer 2003-04-14, 4:49 pm |
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Looks like I will be vacationing at the Beach this year. Six weeks vacation and no spare dosh to go anywhere exotic.
Slough's got a beach?  | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-14, 9:02 pm |
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Slough's got a beach?
Slough aint happening, alas. Perhaps a trip to Cork later on in the end of the year. If you want we could have a 'Cork crew' get together, I know Tharg lives there. But Dubs out of the question as I will have the 'Dustbin Lids' with me. | |
| bearing 2003-04-15, 3:13 am |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Slough aint happening, alas. Perhaps a trip to Cork later on in the end of the year. If you want we could have a 'Cork crew' get together, I know Tharg lives there. But Dubs out of the question as I will have the 'Dustbin Lids' with me.
Are you not bringing the 'Trouble and Strife' then? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-15, 10:54 am |
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Are you not bringing the 'Trouble and Strife' then?
Nope, too much money. But my eldist wants to go as his Nan spoils him so much and the wife knows I wont get into too much trouble and go out drinking everynight with him around. | |
| Forsaken 2003-04-15, 1:37 pm |
| Its pretty bad when your top leaders in your nation are named Bush, Dick and Colon | |
| enforcer 2003-04-16, 5:36 am |
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Nope, too much money. But my eldist wants to go as his Nan spoils him so much and the wife knows I wont get into too much trouble and go out drinking everynight with him around.
Bring him along I'm sure he'll enjoy some of the blackstuff | |
| bearing 2003-04-16, 9:55 am |
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enjoy some of the blackstuff
Giz a job, I can do that... | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-16, 8:56 pm |
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Bring him along I'm sure he'll enjoy some of the blackstuff
I would, but he always sneaks off to the fruit machine when its his round. | |
| bearing 2003-04-17, 8:05 am |
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I would, but he always sneaks off to the fruit machine when its his round.
Kids these days, no idea of pub culture... | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-17, 10:18 am |
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Kids these days, no idea of pub culture...
Sigh,
I guess I must be doing something wrong. But I guess he is only four, so he is still learning. I dont like bringing him to the Pub, but then who else is going to drive me home when Ive had a skinfull? | |
| bearing 2003-04-17, 10:51 am |
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Sigh,
I guess I must be doing something wrong. But I guess he is only four, so he is still learning. I dont like bringing him to the Pub, but then who else is going to drive me home when Ive had a skinfull?
Too bloody right. Does he have to use a cushion to see over the steering wheel? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-17, 11:37 am |
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Too bloody right. Does he have to use a cushion to see over the steering wheel?
And Blocks of wood tied to his shoes so he can reach the pedals. | |
| enforcer 2003-04-21, 6:52 am |
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And Blocks of wood tied to his shoes so he can reach the pedals.
but wouldn't you already have the pedals adjusted for you? if so then he wouldn't need the blocks | |
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| bearing 2003-04-21, 7:58 am |
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agree, but i didn't have a quiff, and wasn't wearing teddy boy shoes with 4inch souls
Let me school you in the ways of Rockabillies..
Them shoes are called either beetle crushers or crepes | |
| enforcer 2003-04-21, 11:53 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
Them shoes are called either beetle crushers or crepes
suzete? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-04-21, 12:26 pm |
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Originally posted by enforcer
but wouldn't you already have the pedals adjusted for you? if so then he wouldn't need the blocks
Cheeky bugger,
Im six foot One. And thats without Hair style and foot attire. I think you had too much Smithwicks that night me old china.
My last memory of you was miss Picky helping you into the lift in your drunken state.
to jog yer memory, im the one on the right.
http://examnotes.net/article1001357.html | |
| bearing 2003-04-21, 3:58 pm |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Cheeky bugger,
Im six foot One. And thats without Hair style and foot attire. I think you had too much Smithwicks that night me old china.
My last memory of you was miss Picky helping you into the lift in your drunken state.
to jog yer memory, im the one on the right.
http://examnotes.net/article1001357.html
Twas I that was supping the Smithwicks, enforcer was drinking the Porter... |
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