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| enforcer 2003-03-18, 4:25 pm |
| Three strangers at a small terminal in the Texas Panhandle are awaiting their shuttle flight. One is a Native American Indian passing through from Oklahoma.
Another, a local ranch hand on his way to Fort Worth for a stock show. The third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at the Texas oil patch from the Middle East.
To pass the time they strike up a conversation on recent events, and the discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon the Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout radical Muslim. The conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowpoke leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table, tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.
The wind outside blows tumbleweeds and the old windsock flaps.
Finally, The Native American clears his throat and softly, he speaks: Once, my people were many, now we are few.
The radical Muslim raises an eyebrow and leans forward: Once my people were few - he sneers, and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?
The Texan shifts the toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl, That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-18, 7:39 pm |
| Miss Picky tell you that one?
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| shehzada4 2003-03-18, 9:36 pm |
| and you think thats funny ? | |
| Spides 2003-03-18, 10:03 pm |
| shehzada4 I think it's funny.... | |
| RussS 2003-03-18, 11:09 pm |
| fits most texicans I know  | |
| shehzada4 2003-03-18, 11:16 pm |
| Spides
making fun of Muslims is not funny at all ! | |
| vincentnl 2003-03-19, 12:37 am |
| Never joke about muslims.
Muslims don't know what jokes are.
And if they do joke, you can afford to relax a little 
No comment about Enforcer's joke. I neither found it funny or unfunny. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-19, 1:11 am |
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Originally posted by shehzada4
Spides
making fun of Muslims is not funny at all !
OK guys!!. coooooooooooool it down.
Muslims, in their present situation, deserve what they're getting from others. Why do you think Muslims are having such a hard time on earth, it's because they've abandoned their duty. They've reduced their religion to a mere batch of identity. The harmony, the respect, the mercy, the just, the morality, the righteousness, the tranquility of heart, It’s all gone! It’s all gone! Good Muslims are still around, but their number is very low.
What do you think is happening in the Middle East now? Just look at the situation. It’s totally embarrassing all around. Arab nations are helping the American coalition whilst most European nations are totally against it. What do Arabs and Europeans have in common. Humanity! That's it. They don't share a common religion, they don't share one culture. They're not of the same ethnic stock. And yet, the Arabs, who claim they share a bound of brotherhood, are pleased when one is swept out by a mightier power. They’re totally stupid!
I'm not saying Saddam should stay in power. I despise him as I despise Hitler and his crew. But who thinks Saddam's gonna get hurt in this Gulf War II. I don't. I certainly don't. The Iraqi people, the innocent people, the civilians, are those who will suffer from the war against saddam lead by the U.S.
Kuwait, for example, would be more than happy to see saddam's XXX kicked hard. So would Saudi Arabia. Why? That’s because they believe their well-being and success depends on whether Iraq shares the oil market with them or not.
Now please, let's not make fun of anyone. But let's all know the truth. Muslims are facing problems because they chose to do so.
That's my piece, now let's have peace.
2lbs | |
| vincentnl 2003-03-19, 1:16 am |
| Forever the minority causing trouble.
The majority in any class are decent. The rest just get swept up in between and get seen as bad by everybody else... | |
| paullidd 2003-03-19, 4:18 am |
| almost any joke that's funny gives a hard time to some poor sod. It doesn't really matter if it's funny or not, but it is really very fu**in* tasteless at this time.
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| bearing 2003-03-19, 5:49 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by shehzada4
and you think thats funny ?
Hello!!!
It's what is known as a joke.
And here was me thinking the Germans had a bad sense of humour... | |
| shehzada4 2003-03-19, 10:09 am |
| 2lazybutsmart
First of all let me remind you that none of any Middle East Country is supporting the coiliation..Just the other Day Saudia gave the statement that they dont want their Iraqi Brothers to0 be attacked..So you have a very wrong assumption that Middle East Supports the coilation..No they dont...
Noone loves Saddam..He is the culprit..He is the one who should be punished....Why bomb millions of innocent children & women for just one man ?...Here is your humanity now ???....You guys got bombed..2000 ppl died..fine...but the people who attacked WTC were " Terrorits "..but what did ur government do in return ?...Attacked Aghanistan and killed 20,000 ppl...Your Country`s 2000 die and whole hell break lose out ..Afghanistan`s 20,000 ppl die and you call it " defending our country "..Yeah right...Defending your country by bombing thousands of ppl who probaly never saw a American in their lives..Ppl who attacked WTC were terriorists..Your Government attacked Afghnaistan..That means they r Terriorists too..What makes you think that by bombing Muslim Countries, Muslims will keep quite ?......What makes you think that if you kill someone`s brother or sister they wouldnt strike back ?..Sorry to say but each person your bombs kill...Another Terriorist is born out of their relatives..Revenge is human nature..If you can take the revenge of WTC ...Muslims have the right to take revenge too...If America is so called " civilized ", then it should have solved the matter through diplomacy not bombs..
I have read number of Threads in this forum and others too about how America have the right to attack Iraq...You can say all that because you dont know how it feels when u r taking your dinner and suddenly your city starts getting bombed..You dont know how it feels when prior to war you have to start keeping stock of six months food in your home..You dont know how it feels when the probaility of you dying in next 24 hrs after being attacked is 50 out of every 100 ppl..It is very easy to just sit in front of your computers and pass on rubbish comments...It is very difficult sitting at your home staring at certain death....
Muslims are not facing problems because they choosed soo..Its because they r weak . Nearly all of the Muslim Countries are Third World...Its problems created by your own Country and some of its Best Frds...and when you get striked back you call it terriorism....Whats Happeneing in Palestine ?...USA is the main sponsor of Isreal`s militiary equipment...Why USA doesnt call Isreal Terriorists ?...Everday Isrealis are killing Palaestians ...why noone talks about them ?...damn iam outta here
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Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
OK guys!!. coooooooooooool it down.
Muslims, in their present situation, deserve what they're getting from others. Why do you think Muslims are having such a hard time on earth, it's because they've abandoned their duty. They've reduced their religion to a mere batch of identity. The harmony, the respect, the mercy, the just, the morality, the righteousness, the tranquility of heart, It’s all gone! It’s all gone! Good Muslims are still around, but their number is very low.
What do you think is happening in the Middle East now? Just look at the situation. It’s totally embarrassing all around. Arab nations are helping the American coalition whilst most European nations are totally against it. What do Arabs and Europeans have in common. Humanity! That's it. They don't share a common religion, they don't share one culture. They're not of the same ethnic stock. And yet, the Arabs, who claim they share a bound of brotherhood, are pleased when one is swept out by a mightier power. They’re totally stupid!
I'm not saying Saddam should stay in power. I despise him as I despise Hitler and his crew. But who thinks Saddam's gonna get hurt in this Gulf War II. I don't. I certainly don't. The Iraqi people, the innocent people, the civilians, are those who will suffer from the war against saddam lead by the U.S.
Kuwait, for example, would be more than happy to see saddam's XXX kicked hard. So would Saudi Arabia. Why? That’s because they believe their well-being and success depends on whether Iraq shares the oil market with them or not.
Now please, let's not make fun of anyone. But let's all know the truth. Muslims are facing problems because they chose to do so.
That's my piece, now let's have peace.
2lbs
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| mindmesh 2003-03-19, 10:48 am |
| No one is talking about Isreal because Palestinians give what they get. Arab nations want their land back, but they lost it when they tried to attack Isreal. The Isreali's are surrounded by Hostile nations and those nations militaries can't beat a little country. So they resort to suicide bombings.
As for Afghanistan. If the country didn't allow itself to be taken over, then we wouldn't have had to go in.. I suppose we should have sat back and allowed it to happen again. We gave Afghanistan 160 Million dollars a year in Humanitarian aid before WTC attacks. The Most of any country in the world.. We, also, stopped ethnic cleansing in Kosovo.
The joke was funny. I heard it diffrent though.
I heard it Cowboys and N***ers... So In America everyone has a turn being the butt of a joke.. I'm sure he didn't put it out there to offend.. Besides I found it more offensive to the Texans.. They come off like Ignorant A$$e$ in the joke.. Take Jokes with a grain of salt. | |
| Spides 2003-03-19, 3:06 pm |
| Vincentnl I understand your frustration. I lived in Luton all my life and I'm returning soon. Muslims have been the biggest pain in the arse, always fighting over their bloody mosque. Put them all in a field and let them kill each other, no guesses who'll have to pay to clean up the mess......... | |
| Lucidity 2003-03-19, 3:30 pm |
| Funny? It's incredibly funny.
20,000 people did not die in Afganistan. Using lie to support your claims completely destroys any credibility you may have. Similar to the published reports in the Middle East and Arab countries that Israel was behind 9/11.
It's amazing that so many will believe anything that they are told. Simply disguise it as "religion" or faith, and it automatically becomes law to so many. Do you have no sense of reason? Can you not think for yourself?
Over 3,000 people died on 9/11. How many of those people had anything to do with any "American Policy" in the Middle East? Those people who died, did not have a choice in American policy. They were slaughtered because they were easy targets for cowards.
Sadam Hussein came to power through revolt. He earned his position through death. He holds onto it because of fear and human suffering. He should not have been allowed to stay this long.
He is a butcher. A killer. The peaceniks cry for the victims of this "war", but they refuse to cry for the thousands killed by him, and the thousands more that will die if nothing is done to rid him of power.
He is paying now because he is preparing to attack Americans. We have suffered once, we will not let it happen again. Even now, the French who have fought the U.S at every turn on the Iraqi issue, have declared that when Saddam uses his chemical weapons they will join in the fight against him. They admitted they know he has those weapons. Those weapons that are forbidden by treaty, and his surrender in 1991.
The cowardice amongst the rest of the world is sickening. You claim the U.S.A is bad because we are going to rid the world of a cancer.
I say you walk around with blinders. You have been given the gift of reason, but you choose to cast it aside and let others tell you what to think. | |
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| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-19, 5:31 pm |
| quote:
Over 3,000 people died on 9/11. How many of those people had anything to do with any "American Policy" in the Middle East? Those people who died, did not have a choice in American policy. They were slaughtered because they were easy targets for cowards.
No, thats how terrorist operate, indiscriminatly. America will always be a target of Islamic terrorism as long as we support Isreal. That is the price we pay.
It doesnt matter how many regimes we change. | |
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| I have no problem with the muslim religion, however ....
I suggest that it is possibly about time that some muslims actually read the Koran and understood what is written. What they are being taught by wacko Mullahs is definitely a sin and not Allahs word.
Having read history widely I know that many religions have been the source of a lot more misery and the taking of life than should be excused, but we must move on and look towards reconciling our differences. Most religions have very much in common, but the one fault that most do is the belief that theirs is the Only True Religion and their god is the only god - crap, rubbish, balderdash and bull$hit!!! | |
| enforcer 2003-03-19, 6:03 pm |
| mmmmmm thought so. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-19, 9:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
No, thats how terrorist operate, indiscriminatly. America will always be a target of Islamic terrorism as long as we support Isreal. That is the price we pay.
It doesnt matter how many regimes we change.
Agreed  | |
| Kasor 2003-03-19, 10:17 pm |
| Just relax and enjoy the joke...!
It mean to be fun... | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-19, 10:36 pm |
| shehzada4
That is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read in my life. However much the Nazis try to portray themselves as the good guys and us as the devil, they will fail. However much the communists try to do the same, they will fail. However much the terrorists and their supporters do so, they will fail. The lies fall, one at a time; and liars along with them. Goodness always prevails in the end. God Bless America and her freedom loving friends and allies. | |
| shehzada4 2003-03-19, 11:34 pm |
| Yea right bullshit ! ...Once group of Nations start bombing Newyork with F117 stealth fighters , then tell me what bullshit is .... Your stupid Moron Leader is another wannabe Hitler | |
| bearing 2003-03-20, 2:30 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by shehzada4
Yea right bullshit ! ...Once group of Nations start bombing Newyork with F117 stealth fighters , then tell me what bullshit is .... Your stupid Moron Leader is another wannabe Hitler
Which group of nations might this be? and pray tell me where they will be obtaining their Stealth Bombers from?
Oh and shehzada4 I notice you are from Pakistan, do I need to mention Kashmir? Or would that make the statements you've made make you sound like a hypocrite? | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 3:12 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by shehzada4
Yea right bullshit ! ...Once group of Nations start bombing Newyork with F117 stealth fighters , then tell me what bullshit is .... Your stupid Moron Leader is another wannabe Hitler
shehzada, ur mixin up everything. Bush's coalition lead war is one thing. Castrating Saddam is another. And the Middle East situation is yet a third.
Let's take one at a time.
The first, which is the war lead by the U.S president. Is a mistake, It's more than a mistake, it's deliberately usurping the rights and safety of the Iraqi people. It's blindly stepping forth while the whole international community stands back. It's seeing ones self as omniscient. It's totally going after three words. "O" "I" "L"
The second point which is castrating and punishing sadam hussien, I would be more than glad to see saddam castrated and then have his nuts fed to the dogs. Saddam is an axis of evil. But the innocent Iraqi people are not. Take this in mind. If some gangster shields himself with an innocent lady or child, would you kill them all and claim that the gang poses a threat to me. No!, that's not humanity, and that's what exactly Bush is doing.
So that matter is set and understood from your side, I hope.
The third and last point is the Middle East situation and Palestinian conflict. Let me start with the Palestinian problem. You said that nobody speaks about Israel killing innocent Palestinians. I agree with you. I condemn Israel’s killing of innocent Palestinians. And at the same time, I condemn Palestinians blowing them selves up inside school buses and malls. The problem and conflict is coming from both sides, and unless they are both stopped, there won't be a fruitful outcome.
The second point is the Middle East situation about the Iraqi war. You said Saudi Arabia said that it won't support the U.S. lead coalition with army whatsoever the matter may be. Now, if you use you're brains in the right manner, you will perceive that Saudi Arabia can only help the coalition forces with two factors.
-Money, and
-Air Force Bases
And they are currently providing both.
So what makes you say Saudi Arabia is not supporting the U.S. lead coalition? It certainly IS! But in a slightly covert manner.
I can see that God doesn't want this world to remain any longer. It's being lead by heartless gutless, brainless, purposeless IDIOTS.
May God Bless this world! AMIN
2lbs. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-20, 5:23 am |
| quote:
I condemn Israel’s killing of innocent Palestinians. And at the same time, I condemn Palestinians blowing them selves up inside school buses and malls. The problem and conflict is coming from both sides, and unless they are both stopped, there won't be a fruitful outcome.
So I suppose you believe that if a country is attacked by terrorism, it should just stand down and throw parties. No nation on this planet would do so. | |
| enforcer 2003-03-20, 5:24 am |
| Hmmm, the confusion master steps in.
Bearing : Which group of nations might this be? and pray tell me where they will be obtaining their Stealth Bombers from?
probably same sort of place they got the American Airlines planes in 2001.
2lazybutsmart : Take this in mind. If some gangster shields himself with an innocent lady or child, would you kill them all and claim that the gang poses a threat to me. No!
if said gangsta has an uzi and is currently spraying bullets all over the place killing other innocents including members of his own family then YES
2lazybutsmart : You said that nobody speaks about Israel killing innocent Palestinians. I agree with you. I condemn Israel’s killing of innocent Palestinians.
when the palenstinians have no value of their own life such they kill themselves in order to kill others, why should anyone else value their life.
2lazybutsmart : I can see that God doesn't want this world to remain any longer. It's being lead by heartless gutless, brainless, purposeless IDIOTS.
since when has that been different in the past? The only difference is the weapons are a bit more destructive
now I think i'll definitely need my flame proof suit | |
| bearing 2003-03-20, 5:52 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
Hmmm, the confusion master steps in.
Bearing : Which group of nations might this be? and pray tell me where they will be obtaining their Stealth Bombers from?
probably same sort of place they got the American Airlines planes in 2001.
Bit harder to hijack a stealth bomber though. | |
| enforcer 2003-03-20, 6:03 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by bearing
Bit harder to hijack a stealth bomber though.
Why? there will be less people on it to get in the way. | |
| bearing 2003-03-20, 6:18 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
Why? there will be less people on it to get in the way.
But you've got to find one first, and hope the cloaking device isn't on. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-20, 6:44 am |
| I'll bet that if this forum had existed during the cold war, there would have been people posting messages defending Communism. Indeed, had there been such a phenomenon during the early part of the 20th century, I could just imagine all the pro-Hitler postings. Freedom loving democrats, Americans and others, must not be dissuaded from the mission of confronting evil when it threatens civilization. Evil seems to succeed because it is able to convince some that it is good. | |
| paullidd 2003-03-20, 7:07 am |
| Just a thought. I find it quite interesting that Iraq, Palestein, India/Pakistan(kashmir) and lets not forget Ireland are all countries that are in the state they are in now entirely because of the imperialistic/capitalistic screwing of the British in the past couple of centuries (longer for the Irish).
So no suprise the British government is involved now.
Just a thought | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-20, 7:22 am |
| Many nations can look back and recognize mistakes they have made. If they have learned and progressed then they have achieved great things. Britain is today among the freest, best, most civilized, most peace-loving, nations on the face of the earth. God bless the British people and their elected leaders. | |
| enforcer 2003-03-20, 7:33 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by paullidd
So no suprise the British government is involved now.
Just a thought
hey don't forget we had trouble with the Romans, Vikings etc long before we started causing trouble. | |
| paullidd 2003-03-20, 7:34 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
Britain is today among the freest, best, most civilized, most peace-loving, nations on the face of the earth. God bless the British people and their elected leaders.
You make it sound like such a great place to live - wait a minute it doesn't sound like where I live! how can that be? | |
| paullidd 2003-03-20, 7:38 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
hey don't forget we had trouble with the Romans, Vikings etc long before we started causing trouble.
I thought all our leaders were descended from the Norman French who were Norse invaders of France - so it's still the Vikings raping the animals pillaging the houses and setting fire to the women? | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-20, 7:41 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by paullidd
You make it sound like such a great place to live - wait a minute it doesn't sound like where I live! how can that be?
If it's not such a great place to live, why do so many people emigrate there. Moreover, if you're not happy in the UK, come here and check out the US. Most of the people who criticize the US would give their right arm to live here. You should hear what the Iraqis who live here have to say about the action to take out the piece of shit they ran away from. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-20, 8:10 am |
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The first, which is the war lead by the U.S president. Is a mistake, It's more than a mistake, it's deliberately usurping the rights and safety of the Iraqi people. It's blindly stepping forth while the whole international community stands back. It's seeing ones self as omniscient. It's totally going after three words. "O" "I" "L"
In a way you are correct.. Russia has a bid on the West Kurna Oil field. The Bid was made by Lukoil ( Russia's biggest Oil Company). The Russian government has a 14% stake in this company and it recieves about 40% of it's government revenue from Oil sales.. When we voted on resolution 1441, Russia entered a contract with Iraq but after the vote the Iraqi's reneged on the deal because Russia didn't start production. They couldn't because UN sanctions but that didn't stop them from signing contracts with them. So in order to regain their contract they continue to block the US's efforts to disarm Iraq. BTW, West Kurna has about 120 Billon Barrels of Oil Reserves and about 220 Billion Barrels of Untapped oil. At $23 per barrel thats about $7.8 Trillion dollars. No wonder why the Russians Were fighting so hard. It sure isn't their outstanding moral disagreement..
What about the French.. The Iraqi government owes them Huge amounts of money. The French know that once the US goes in they won't get their money because they won't be able to afford it.
So your right this is about Oil. But your wrong about who wants it. France and Russia both know about the WMD.. France made a statement saying that if Iraq uses their weapons they will "reconsider" their position.
Had Russia and France stood behind us, Iraq would have done more to disarm. They wouldn't have had a choice. So You can blame America, as you like to do. But remember you live in America Jr...  | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 9:09 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
So I suppose you believe that if a country is attacked by terrorism, it should just stand down and throw parties. No nation on this planet would do so.
and you render the word "country" as ""?
Israel, Palestine, or both? | |
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| bearing 2003-03-20, 9:21 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by paullidd
You make it sound like such a great place to live - wait a minute it doesn't sound like where I live! how can that be?
And here's me living in the worst county in England, according to those toffy nosed twats at Country Life anyway.. | |
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| You also have nice weather in England. | |
| bearing 2003-03-20, 9:43 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by foggy
You also have nice weather in England.
It aint that nice, I had a standup argument with it yesterday, some of the language it used was disgraceful.. | |
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| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 10:16 am |
| mindmesh, you're avatar shows the dog that hunted the baskervilles. Do you have that as a symbol of your ancesters or is that just mere conincidence? | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-20, 10:20 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
mindmesh, you're avatar shows the dog that hunted the baskervilles. Do you have that as a symbol of your ancesters or is that just mere conincidence?
Coincidence.. I use it because I symbolizes my Dragon Breath..
Spit Fire is a nick name I earned for bluntly speaking my mind.. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 10:40 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Coincidence.. I use it because I symbolizes my Dragon Breath..
Spit Fire is a nick name I earned for bluntly speaking my mind..
so are you bluntly speaking your mind that your avatar is a dragon and not a dog? | |
| bearing 2003-03-20, 10:44 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
so are you bluntly speaking your mind that your avatar is a dragon and not a dog?
2 Pound sterling, you need your eyes testing if you think that's a dog.. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-20, 10:47 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by 2lazybutsmart
so are you bluntly speaking your mind that your avatar is a dragon and not a dog?
I wish I could have a dog that looked like that. I wouldn't have to worry about anything coming within a mile of my House.. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 10:56 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
I wish I could have a dog that looked like that. I wouldn't have to worry about anything coming within a mile of my House..
here you go. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-20, 11:06 am |
| Close but my avatar has scales and a forked tongue.. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-20, 11:17 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Close but my avatar has scales and a forked tongue..
eh but that was a dragon. this is a dog.
want one? | |
| vincentnl 2003-03-21, 1:31 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Coincidence.. I use it because I symbolizes my Dragon Breath..
Spit Fire is a nick name I earned for bluntly speaking my mind..
Which stinks
quote:
Originally posted by Spides
Vincentnl I understand your frustration. I lived in Luton all my life and I'm returning soon. Muslims have been the biggest pain in the arse, always fighting over their bloody mosque. Put them all in a field and let them kill each other, no guesses who'll have to pay to clean up the mess.........
Wrong person, buddy.
I ain't no muslim and never said anything... - not bad anyway... | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 5:36 am |
| Here we go again. Much against the better judgement of the majority of the population our hard earned tax "dollar" is being used in the persuit of keeping the US economy afloat, GW and his mates rich and the average US vehicle fuel consumption at 15mpg.
Most of the country was already sick of the butt kissing that was going on by our so called Prime Minister Blair and the Foreign Secretary (now know as the US Foreign Secretary) Jack Straw. They've got their heads so far up GW's arse you can just about see the boots.
So how do we get repaid for this generous idiocy, this morning we learn that an US patriot missile battery has shot down one of our fighter bombers returning from a mission.
Brilliant another glorious victory just like the USS Vincennes (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/vince.html) , I expect the missile crew will all get medals to add to the ones they get for chewing gum and walking in a straight line at the same time.
This also happened in the last gulf war when some gung ho pilots in A10 tank busters shot up our clearly marked troop carriers killing their allies again.
What is wrong with the US military. Its like a bad cowboy movie with the chief cowboy in Washington President Dick Cheney (the guy with the codes and the real president) shooting his mouth off between belts of the Johnny Walker Blue and Marrion Morrison, sorry John Wayne letting fly at everything in sight Gulf side so long as its our own forces.
They are even doing it to each other in Kuwait as a 101 Airborne Division soldier fraggs his commanders and collegues with two grenades in a command tent. What do these people do on Friday and Saturday nights for entertainment blow their relatives away between snorts of coke.
Why are they always hysterical and panic at every opportunity. Last night I watched a Sky News Reporter complete with all the Press Gear and ID being harassed by a panic driven squad of lost US troops. It was apparent even to the incredibly dim that this reporter was not a column of T62 Tanks.
The reporter had to point out to then that the highway they were looking for (Highway 80) they were on (super navigation chaps who for got or can't read a map and compass), that the reporter and crew were actually press being festooned with cameras and Press Badges etc as against AK-47's and signs wot said "Enemy" or "Iraqi Shoot Here" and "I Surrender"
Whatever they like to call it "blue on blue", "friendly fire" whatever I strongly suggest that we refuse to play until they can sort out which enemy is what and where and learn to be responsible with their toys.
I think Saddams an evil arse as well but he's not worth the life of a soldier let alone British one shot up or down by his own side.
Call me old fashioned but when I played Cowboys and Indians as a kid that's what it was playing....I didn't take it into later life and onto a real battlefield. The problem with some jokes is that they can end up shooting you in battle whilst calling you freind at the same time. Have our colonial freinds got any comments on this (I'm just off to put me tin hat and flak jacket on). | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 6:28 am |
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Originally posted by Hal9000
Here we go again. Much against the better judgement of the majority of the population our hard earned tax "dollar" is being used in the persuit of keeping the US economy afloat, GW and his mates rich and the average US vehicle fuel consumption at 15mpg.
Most of the country was already sick of the butt kissing that was going on by our so called Prime Minister Blair and the Foreign Secretary (now know as the US Foreign Secretary) Jack Straw. They've got their heads so far up GW's arse you can just about see the boots.
So how do we get repaid for this generous idiocy, this morning we learn that an US patriot missile battery has shot down one of our fighter bombers returning from a mission.
Brilliant another glorious victory just like the USS Vincennes (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/vince.html) , I expect the missile crew will all get medals to add to the ones they get for chewing gum and walking in a straight line at the same time.
This also happened in the last gulf war when some gung ho pilots in A10 tank busters shot up our clearly marked troop carriers killing their allies again.
What is wrong with the US military. Its like a bad cowboy movie with the chief cowboy in Washington President Dick Cheney (the guy with the codes and the real president) shooting his mouth off between belts of the Johnny Walker Blue and Marrion Morrison, sorry John Wayne letting fly at everything in sight Gulf side so long as its our own forces.
They are even doing it to each other in Kuwait as a 101 Airborne Division soldier fraggs his commanders and collegues with two grenades in a command tent. What do these people do on Friday and Saturday nights for entertainment blow their relatives away between snorts of coke.
Why are they always hysterical and panic at every opportunity. Last night I watched a Sky News Reporter complete with all the Press Gear and ID being harassed by a panic driven squad of lost US troops. It was apparent even to the incredibly dim that this reporter was not a column of T62 Tanks.
The reporter had to point out to then that the highway they were looking for (Highway 80) they were on (super navigation chaps who for got or can't read a map and compass), that the reporter and crew were actually press being festooned with cameras and Press Badges etc as against AK-47's and signs wot said "Enemy" or "Iraqi Shoot Here" and "I Surrender"
Whatever they like to call it "blue on blue", "friendly fire" whatever I strongly suggest that we refuse to play until they can sort out which enemy is what and where and learn to be responsible with their toys.
I think Saddams an evil arse as well but he's not worth the life of a soldier let alone British one shot up or down by his own side.
Call me old fashioned but when I played Cowboys and Indians as a kid that's what it was playing....I didn't take it into later life and onto a real battlefield. The problem with some jokes is that they can end up shooting you in battle whilst calling you freind at the same time. Have our colonial freinds got any comments on this (I'm just off to put me tin hat and flak jacket on).
The name of the President of the United States is George W. Bush, not Dick Cheney. The latter is the Vice President. Go back to school you disrespectful ignoramus. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 7:44 am |
| I' like to say you thick slack jawed redneck but you'd only take it as a compliemnt. Did your mother marry a cousin or something?
The joke is on YOU, YOU IGNORAMUS CHEYNEY IS THE REAL PRESIDENT as BUSH definately could not walk and chew gum at the same time and is well known for swilling the blue, after all he's been arrested for it. Failed the sobriety test? He's got a couple of old slappers for daughters who swill as badly as him as they keep getting their collars felt for underage drinking. Very god fearing indeed.
Cheyney ensures that little Bush Jnr does as Bush Snr tells him. Do you honestly think that man (Bush Jnr) has a thought of his own?
When they swore him in you could see his wife wispering in his ear "Breath in, breath out".
Let me remind you this is the guy (Bush Jnr) who immediately after the 9/11 attack got into his aircraft and went on a magical mystery tour of airports around the US because he was afraid of the "credible threat" to his person by returning to Washington. When he landed at one the local airport half the US Army turned out to protect him!
Washington now that is where "heart attack" Cheyney was with the reigns of power, who needed Bush babbling away next to them, he's still trying to sort out what touch tone is? No Cheyney and dear old Donny Rumsfeld has it all sewn up. Between Ms Rice, Colin "Uncle Tom" Powell, and that nice Rabbi Mr Fleisher, they all contrive to keep baby Bush as far away from reality and the levers of power as possible. unless you want to see the real power in America then look here http://americandefenseleague.com/onaleash.htm
Whilst were on the subject of dear old Donny Rumsfeld another one of Bush Snr freinds, wasn't he the guy that sold Saddam the anthrax and gas stuff. Oopps....has the inbreeding shortened the memory somewhat. So when and if Saddams Army use gas or anthrax etc on our coalition troops it will have been your very own people that supplied it. Marvellous. Another glorious victory by proxy this time on your own side.
Look here you strap-on wearing Two Gun Texas Twit try lining up a few facts before you open up on me. Don't lecture me about disrespect when you can't even utter one word of regret or remorse for your trigger happy troops blowing everything but the enemy away. Yes these things do happen in war but why is it always happening to the US troops, gung ho?
No I don't want my taxes to keep up your lifestyle, such as it is, quite frankly I can do without the "haute cuisine" of the failing and tasteless McDonalds. The historical "modifications" of American and world history by Hollywood. The criminal lies of Wall street, Enron et al. Am I going too quickly for you.
But when your government or your troops intend to get stuck up the a**e of my government or our troops kindly have the common decency and politeness to ask first, or if you must behave with the manners of a hog just look who your shooting at first and remember to send some Monsanto genetically modified flowers.
Now take your dirty long flashers macintosh (must save a fortune only having to wear trousers to the knees), put your stetson on, get astride your old nag and buzz off into the sunset, there's a good lad! | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 7:48 am |
| Too much Guinness. Get some help, clean out your brain, and then engage in thoughtful debate. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-23, 7:56 am |
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Too much Guinness
After years of research, ( at my own fundings I might add ). There is NO SUCH THING as too much Guinness. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 8:05 am |
| * Sarcastic Remarks * | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 8:11 am |
| Shouldn't think so lad. You see I rather dislike the stuff leaves a nasty tatste in my mouth. You can't even work out the national and well know drink from "Ireland" you know that country next to Norway and just down the road a way from Tibet.
Having been in the police in N.Ireland a few years ago I watched America grovelling and supporting the terrorists of the IRA.
Remember terrorists. I watched that degenerate Sen. Kennedy stoke up support for the same sort of filthy murdering rubbish that you are whining about now. I saw your fellow citizens all with room temperature IQ's giving vast amounts of money to the brave back shooters in green.
Of the 30 odd blokes I worked with two are in the nut house, most in the ground and I'm the only sane guy left. I have much to thank you for, all the funerals I went to, getting blown up a couple of times and shot, the injuries that won't go away. The odd nightmare now and again and again.
So I get really hacked off when I see stupid gung ho pretend cowboys, who are more likely to have been fiddling with their dicks than their pretend guns and who can't see over their collective noses lecturing me. I'd go take a pill and lie down if I were you, on the other hand just take the bottle, I don't think you'll notice any difference! | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 8:13 am |
| I don't hold that bastard's idiotic posts against the great British people. I feel eternally indebted to the UK for their support. My bottom line is that I respect and admire Great Britain, and I am honored to be part of a coaltion with that great nation. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 8:14 am |
| If you look at my follow up post you will see just how wrong you can get! See another arse with a loaded mouth shot off in the wrong direction. Keep em coming I think I'm proving something here. By the way least my parents wern't bother/sister/mother and aunt all at the same time! Eh Minddump. | |
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| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-23, 8:32 am |
| WOW! HOLY SMOKES
I thought I ate a bowl full of chilies. Arrrrrrrrghhhh. Pass me that bucket of water!
What's all this. Hal9000, don’t you think u'd better go around the cert threads and help out a few people before you squirt metal on senior members .
Yeah. I think u should go around and help out some heads since you've got all those cert's to show. 
SLOW DOWN GUYS!. This forum never heated up so much. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 8:32 am |
| Well what is great about being shafted. your Government has already unilaterally awarded contracts to American companies "only" for the rebuilding of Iraq. Apparently the latest exscuse is that
US law requires it.
Now just a minute here, one of the main companies is one started and previously headed by.....step forward Donny Rumsfeld. Nothing like a profit. Especially out of a war created for such.
So tell me oh Texas refugee where do we get a look in. Having heaved our butts halfway round the world to give your army some backbone and credability you now want to keep all the money yourself.
Rather like inviting all your freinds to play ball and then at the crucial moment going home with the damn ball because you say you own it!
You don't know too much about the country you live in do you. We've always noticed how the US media always backed off asking its politicians the really difficult questions.
Well I've got a way around this for you. You see there is this thing called the Internet, you know the thing Al Gore invented. If you use it you can see over the fence out of your own back yard and into loads of others.
You get to see and hear what other people see and think of you. You know what old Alamo, sometimes you find out that you've got it wrong. You've got it wrong! | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 8:40 am |
| See your looking for some profit.. I thought you would be above that. Looking to get paid for the war... Figured as much..
Don't worry the British will have their contracts.. Most Likely BP will be getting an oil contract.. As for the Rebuilding thats old news. They bid on that about a month or so ago..
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What's all this. Hal9000, don’t you think u'd better go around the cert threads and help out a few people before you squirt metal on senior members .
I don't consider myself a SENOIR MEMBER, but I do know that when you sign up to a cert forum you don't jump into a war debate, you sign up to ask questions and help others. This guy just wanted to post under an assumed Identity. Now I haven't been in the other threads much lately but I have been there. | |
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| The original thread title suggested this might start a war; it did, a war of words.
Just a reminder of what the 'General Discussion Forum' is about, and I quote:
"General discussion about anything and everything related to Information Technology and certifications."
Got it? Good. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 8:47 am |
| "Also, by Hal9000's standards Bush is the Prime Minister of Britian. Looks like there are Americans in power everywhere as the UK Parliment voted to procede with the war.."
Does't anyone read. No Cheyney is the US President so de facto the British Prime Minister. I actually don't think America really understands how much contempt Blair and the Labour Party is held in. They certainly don't understand our parliament.
The reason that parliament voted for war is quite simple. When MP's enter Parliament they are subject to a system of Whips which are people in each of the parties who ensure that you vote along party lines. Far from wanting to vote for war the majority of MP's found themselves following the whips line or facing sanctions against them. The inefectual opposition voted for war as well.
If you take generally accepted opinion polls in the UK most of the population only wanted war on a second UN ballot. We did not get a second ballot. So that basically is it we went towar under dodgy circumstances when most of the counrty and government did not. Clear? | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 8:56 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hal9000
"Also, by Hal9000's standards Bush is the Prime Minister of Britian. Looks like there are Americans in power everywhere as the UK Parliment voted to procede with the war.."
Does't anyone read. No Cheyney is the US President so de facto the British Prime Minister. I actually don't think America really understands how much contempt Blair and the Labour Party is held in. They certainly don't understand our parliament.
The reason that parliament voted for war is quite simple. When MP's enter Parliament they are subject to a system of Whips which are people in each of the parties who ensure that you vote along party lines. Far from wanting to vote for war the majority of MP's found themselves following the whips line or facing sanctions against them. The inefectual opposition voted for war as well.
If you take generally accepted opinion polls in the UK most of the population only wanted war on a second UN ballot. We did not get a second ballot. So that basically is it we went towar under dodgy circumstances when most of the counrty and government did not. Clear?
The reason we didn't get the resolution is that France stopped it. They thereby precipitated an accelerated initiation of hostilities. Had France been willing to compromise, the coalition would be much broader, there would be much greater public support, and maybe the miracle of capitulation on the part of Iraq under truly global pressure would have obviated the current state of affairs. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 8:59 am |
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If you take generally accepted opinion polls in the UK most of the population only wanted war on a second UN ballot. We did not get a second ballot. So that basically is it we went towar under dodgy circumstances when most of the counrty and government did not. Clear?
Not really. I'm just glad that the US government reflects the Majority of the US citizens. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 9:09 am |
| I love these wacko placards held up by protestors reading "Stop the War".
I must admit that I am not smart enough to understand this. I have asked many people whether they comprehend this statement, and I have yet to find anyone. How do you STOP THE WAR? Do you tell coalition forces to unilaterally cease fire and withdraw? Anyone who holds this view is so seperated from reality that I think they have renounced their right to think. If this means that we should talk peace with Saddam, I would ask with what objective in mind? With the objective of permitting him to stay in power? Again, an entirely obscene and unrealistic notion. If you mean bringing the war to a speedy conclusion, I would suggest to the peaceniks that if those in charge would listen to calls for a speedy end to hostilities, this would probably result in a considerable increase in the incidence of civilian casualties, coalition casualties, and Iraqi military casualties. Intensification of these actions in order to bring about a accelerated conclusion would be highly unadvisable. I hope that our leaders are not persuaded to do anything other than follow the most judicious path. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 9:11 am |
| I've detected a few comments here in regard to whom or what I am and identity. I've been a member here since August 2002. I've just never posted before. Hoever I have monitored much.
During today I have also added and updated my details. I am who I am Hal9000 and no other.
I picked up this morning a tasteless post by some cretin purporting to be a joke. This joke used racism as its central theme to get a cheap laugh.
In the backround was the early morning news telling me of yet another "friendly fire" incident on British troops or to give it another and correct name "negligent discharge".
Again it involved US Forces killing their own allies. Its being done in this war, it was done in Afghanistan (Canadian and Afghan troops - of course they don't count do they sic.) and it was also done in the last war.
I'm afraid the self satisfied smug grin of America blowing away its allies and shrugging it's collective shoulders again I find hard to take.
So I asked some simple questions posed a few answers and flew into a storm of flak generated by people who would rather not know the truth.
So here is the challenge, I'll bet my membership here that nobody will be able to find a single incident where directed fire by British Forces caused American deaths in the last Gulf War, Afghanistan or any other recent co-operative missions.
Can't say fairer than that can I. And when we finish our search our American friends can tell us why they keep doing it!
Hal9000 | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 9:15 am |
| The theater commander of the RAF today said that the incident would not divide the coaltion, but strenghthen it. You speak as if we intentionally killed Brits. I am profoundly insulted by that implication. This is something that should not have happened. But, it was not murder. We would not do that to you. You would not do that to us. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 9:21 am |
| Well yes Mindmesh but only if one has one's brother disenfranchise a section of the Florida voters.
I don't see how a 49/51 split could possibly be most of the voters. Sbnetting in your networks must be a real rewarding if not wacky experience.
As for the money it would seem that is something that only people without a scruple should have. Well I like money too just I like to go about a different way of making it. Not by theft and missapropriation of Government funds and taxpayers hard earned cash which seems to be the Donny and Dick way. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 9:22 am |
| Considering Most of the troops are US and Most of the Munitions are US then I'd say you are right.. 250K:40K whats that 62.5:4 or 31.25:2. Thats only counting bodies not ammunition.
As far as the Canadians.. They wern't following Safety precautions. They should have had the perimeter sectioned off with Infared lights the plaines could see and their helmets should have had the same.. There was fault on both sides.
When we dropped the bombs on our allied Afghani's there were American troops there too. Doesn't make things better but it wasn't intentional. | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-23, 9:28 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mindmesh
I'm sorry for the British troops lost but they shouldn't have flown into our Missle like that..
Was that meant to be funny mindmesh?
Excuse me for not fcuking laughing.
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| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 9:30 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hal9000
Well yes Mindmesh but only if one has one's brother disenfranchise a section of the Florida voters.
I don't see how a 49/51 split could possibly be most of the voters. Sbnetting in your networks must be a real rewarding if not wacky experience.
As for the money it would seem that is something that only people without a scruple should have. Well I like money too just I like to go about a different way of making it. Not by theft and missapropriation of Government funds and taxpayers hard earned cash which seems to be the Donny and Dick way.
Our government doesn't go by Majority of the Popular vote it goes by the electorial college. Bush won more states then Gore did, Gore won more cities.. As cities have the higher concentration of people obviously he was going to win the popular vote. I wish I could find the chart that shows the counties won by each.. Also, Only our Congress can declare war not our President. Congress gave him an option to use Military force. He used it. Congress was elected fairly, unless you count the NJ Democrat.
Besides, I wasn't refering to the Presidential election, I'm refering to the War Time sentiment. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 9:32 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Was that meant to be funny mindmesh?
Excuse me for not fcuking laughing.
Not at all. It was meant to be very sarcastic. Hal9000 made it sound like the US intentionally shot down the plane.
You know I don't have any issue with the British. And sorry if my comment was offensive to you. That wasn't my intention. My appologies for trying to fight ignorance with more ignorance. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 9:35 am |
| Look its dead simple I've thrown down a challenge answer it will you.
I said nothing of murder at all so don't try to twist things, I said directed fire. What we know is that again US troops directed fire on a British asset for whatever reason.
When this happened with the A10's in the Gulf the Pentagon had them swifted away. They never fully gave an account of what happened and no sanctions seem to have been taken on them as per the USS Vincennes, did you bother to read the link I posted? Was or has anyone been called to account for the killing of the Canadian and Afghan troops?
I expect it will be so here. I think this again will amount to negligence but you can bet your botton dollar that the Pentagon will cover it up.
It does not look good for the Army and its not a good advertisement for the Patriot Missile that has a poor hit ratio and costs a fortune. When they did an analysis of its record in the last Gulf War they found that it had not hit a thing and may have been resposible for a mis-fire that ended up in allied lines.
So that will be the cinch with that. The last thing the Pentagon wants is the slogan "The Patriot - The Missile That Defends You From Your Allies". | |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
Was that meant to be funny mindmesh?
Excuse me for not fcuking laughing.
Spot on Hooli.
I am getting thoroughly p1ssed off with the "General Discussion" forum being hijacked by people with nothing better to do than rant at each other, over nothing remotely related to IT. (See my previous comment)
If the ranteurs were in the same room, either the conversation wouldn't take place, or there would skin, hair and blood flying everywhere.
I can tolerate the insults being bandied about because no one is perfect, but some of this vitriol is just plain nauseating.
Where is the moderator today, and yesterday, and beyond.
Never mind; a quick revision of the Terms of Use in particular, item 1 from the Acceptable Use Policy:
You agree to not use ExamNotes.net to:
"upload, post or otherwise transmit any data or content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable.
Man, I need a beer. About one litre of Cain's Formidible Ale will do me right.
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| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 10:03 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hippo
Spot on Hooli.
I am getting thoroughly p1ssed off with the "General Discussion" forum being hijacked by people with nothing better to do than rant at each other, over nothing remotely related to IT. (See my previous comment)
If the ranteurs were in the same room, either the conversation wouldn't take place, or there would skin, hair and blood flying everywhere.
I can tolerate the insults being bandied about because no one is perfect, but some of this vitriol is just plain nauseating.
Where is the moderator today, and yesterday, and beyond.
Never mind; a quick revision of the Terms of Use in particular, item 1 from the Acceptable Use Policy:
You agree to not use ExamNotes.net to:
"upload, post or otherwise transmit any data or content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable.
Man, I need a beer. About one litre of Cain's Formidible Ale will do me right.
I ,too, am nauseated by the utterly ridiculous notion that someone who has no interest in a thread and is sickened by it takes the time to read it and respond at length to it. Yours is the most nauseating part of this thread. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 10:04 am |
| Well Mindmesh as far as I can remember your Government ids not quite the one you think you elect.
Do you remember that nice criminal Admiral Poindexter and the felon "Ollie" North. Poindexter got pardoned on the technicality of being given immunity for testifying to congress and I think "Ollie" had to promise on the bible to be a good boy forever. Something about never supplying Arms to the Iranians and drugs to Americas Children or was that the Contra who were supplying the drugs, who cares, profit all round.
Well if you ever listened to "Ollie" and the great Admiral speaking before congress you will know that they both basically said the same thing. There is the government you vote for and the one that runs the show!
Well nice Mr Poindexter far from living in ignominy is back as the head of TIA (Total Information Awareness) youwww.darpa.mil/iao/TIASystems.htm and he wants to know all about you and "your" money. Where you get it from, where its deposited, where you spend it ya da ya da ya.
So I suppose far from stopping so called criminals in Florida voting and thus grabbing the presidency they now are positively pushing the policy of employing them. Just you didn't vote for them, or did you?
I don't know what you and Tex Mex are going to make with government crawling all over your bank account and in the land of the brave and the home of the free....IRS, Ollie and Poindexter permitting.
Still might get a couple more jobs in IT till they farm them out to India, | |
| enforcer 2003-03-23, 10:07 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hal9000
I picked up this morning a tasteless post by some cretin purporting to be a joke. This joke used racism as its central theme to get a cheap laugh.
well from the 'cretin' who posted the original joke, I wish you a long and properous life. Just hope I don't meet up with you in London as it will be neither.
The Enforcer has spoken.
quote:
Originally posted by Hippo
Where is the moderator today, and yesterday, and beyond
this has been one of my points for a while, the General Discussion has only the webmaster as a moderator. I have put forward before that there should be at least two moderators per forum. Hey I've even suggested I should moderate this forum, but that might be seen as putting the fox in with the chickens.
However seeing as some of these threads seem to be getting out of hand I again put myself up for Moderator of this forum. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-03-23, 10:08 am |
| How can you possibly give an individual limited use immunity, have him testify before the world and then pretend that your prosecution is not based in any way upon the testimony extracted from that person. At the time of the prosecutions, I knew that any conviction would be overturned. This is not a technicality. This was a gross bastardization of the judicial process. | |
| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-23, 10:10 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
I ,too, am nauseated by the utterly ridiculous notion that someone who has no interest in a thread and is sickened by it takes the time to read it and respond at length to it. Yours is the most nauseating part of this thread.
You can't fight with everybody man! You gotta have some friends around. Hippo's notion was extremely helpfull. It reminds people like hal9000 to read the rules and regulations.
heh. Were you born in brooklyn?
Hal9000: Reg since Aug 2002, where were you hid? | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 10:14 am |
| "upload, post or otherwise transmit any data or content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable".
My conscious is clear. I must be ready for a job in the US military or better still up on Capitol Hill.
By the way anyone picked up on that challenge yet. I've got all day unlike a few UK coalition troops I can think of.
By the way I do refute the idea this was not a technical discussion. Surely the Patriot is the pinnacle of high tech warfare. Things that should immediately concern us all i.e. communications, programming, aeronautics and ballistics etc etc I thought somebody might have a clue as to why the bloody thing does not work properly, maybe its the human interface. How do we address that? | |
| Hippo 2003-03-23, 10:17 am |
| Definitely cold beer time.
QUOTE by Tech Ranger:-
I ,too, am nauseated by the utterly ridiculous notion that someone who has no interest in a thread
REPLY from Hippo
I am interested in this thread, but this forum is not the place for it
QUOTE by Tech Ranger:-
and is sickened by it takes the time to read it and respond at length to it.
REPLY from Hippo:-
I didn't say I was sickened by it, but this forum is not the place for it
QUOTE by Tech Ranger:-
Yours is the most nauseating part of this thread.
REPLY from Hippo:-
I don't think so. I think other people may well agree with me.
You are now so wound up by all this, that anyone who so much as hints at disagreeing with your viewpoint, is a prime target for your written vitriol.
Hey Enforcer, I'll back you for co-moderator. Just leave the chickens alone; we all need eggs.
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| 2lazybutsmart 2003-03-23, 10:18 am |
| quote:
"upload, post or otherwise transmit any data or content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable".
My conscious is clear. I must be ready for a job in the US military or better still up on Capitol Hill.
By the way anyone picked up on that challenge yet. I've got all day unlike a few UK coalition troops I can think of.
By the way I do refute the idea this was not a technical discussion. Surely the Patriot is the pinnacle of high tech warfare. Things that should immediately concern us all i.e. communications, programming, aeronautics and ballistics etc etc I thought somebody might have a clue as to why the bloody thing does not work properly, maybe its the human interface. How do we address that?
By SHUTING up for a DAMN sec! | |
| enforcer 2003-03-23, 10:21 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hippo
Hey Enforcer, I'll back you for co-moderator. Just leave the chickens alone; we all need eggs.
thanks for that, but why the chickens? | |
| Hippo 2003-03-23, 10:24 am |
| Enforcer
It was based on your original quote:-
Hey I've even suggested I should moderate this forum, but that might be seen as putting the fox in with the chickens.
I'm going off shift now. Time for some Cain's Formidible.
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| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 10:29 am |
| well from the 'cretin' who posted the original joke, I wish you a long and properous life. Just hope I don't meet up with you in London as it will be neither.
The Enforcer has spoken
Not only a cretin, but a potentially violent, ignorant racist fool who clearly is making threats to kill and the like. Does anyone actually employ you and do you know what offences you are committing. Did you see my post about where I had worked?
Your a complete disgrace to Information Technology per say. I take your sort E-Mail messages are delivered with a boot. Try cutting your hair very short, wearing black riding gear, a funny bendy cross like thing on your arm, big boots and beating up people with different coloured skin or beliefs.
It may not be right but I am sure it will make YOU feel so much better. Did you here the one about the NT administrator who walked into something alot older and wiser than him. No neither did he until he woke up! Go away and hang around somebody elses street corner.....lad! | |
| enforcer 2003-03-23, 10:31 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by Hippo
Enforcer
It was based on your original quote:-
Hey I've even suggested I should moderate this forum, but that might be seen as putting the fox in with the chickens.
I'm going off shift now. Time for some Cain's Formidible.
ooops, Sunday morning, short term memory loss, enjoy the drink | |
| enforcer 2003-03-23, 10:34 am |
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Originally posted by Hal9000
Not only a cretin, but a potentially violent, ignorant racist fool who clearly is making threats to kill and the like. Does anyone actually employ you and do you know what offences you are committing. Did you see my post about where I had worked?
Your a complete disgrace to Information Technology per say. I take your sort E-Mail messages are delivered with a boot. Try cutting your hair very short, wearing black riding gear, a funny bendy cross like thing on your arm, big boots and beating up people with different coloured skin or beliefs.
It may not be right but I am sure it will make YOU feel so much better. Did you here the one about the NT administrator who walked into something alot older and wiser than him. No neither did he until he woke up! Go away and hang around somebody elses street corner.....lad!
Hal, you are so worked up you didn't notice the winking smiley, indicating it was a tongue in cheek threat. I think you need to step away from the keyboard and take a long slow drink of something cold in a dark room.
I am not going to get involved in a slanging match which is why i did not resort to calling you names.
as previously stated live long and prosper. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 10:34 am |
| "How can you possibly give an individual limited use immunity, have him testify before the world and then pretend that your prosecution is not based in any way upon the testimony extracted from that person. At the time of the prosecutions, I knew that any conviction would be overturned. This is not a technicality. This was a gross bastardization of the judicial process".
Hey Tex its your judicial system your talking about nothing to do with me. These are just the facts that are available to anyone, or have they censored all the files in the US on this yet?
Any news on that challenge yet?
The one and only HAL9000. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 10:46 am |
| Hal, you are so worked up you didn't notice the winking smiley, indicating it was a tongue in cheek threat. I think you need to step away from the keyboard and take a long slow drink of something cold in a dark room.
I am not going to get involved in a slanging match which is why i did not resort to calling you names.
as previously stated live long and prosper.
Now I'm really annoyed....this is my day for hitting out at everything and anything (my wife calls it my Patriot Day - 4th Sunday in the Month). Now I've got someone telling me he's really being nice to me, how could you, I feel wanted now, I feel a part of something, a coalition prehaps.
Well I can't stand it, where is that cat when you need him, ma get me gun and me boots if I'm gonna die today its gonna be like that Texan with my boots on. There gonna be some fuedin round these here parts. Now where is that missile with my name on it!
Remember what Hal9000 did to his masters, yep and he was off his chump too! Now where is that Troll, I left him round here I'm sure! | |
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| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-23, 11:08 am |
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(Mindmesh)
You know I don't have any issue with the British. And sorry if my comment was offensive to you. That wasn't my intention. My appologies for trying to fight ignorance with more ignorance.
That Remark was out of line and out of context from what you usually post. Dont let Hal the little troll get to you, as that is exactly what he wants.
Appologies accepted. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 11:20 am |
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Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
That Remark was out of line and out of context from what you usually post. Dont let Hal the little troll get to you, as that is exactly what he wants.
Appologies accepted.
I know.. Thats why I haven't responed to him and I edited the post. Again, I want to appologize for the comment. After I re-read it and thought about I offended myself.. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 11:30 am |
| I've never watched so many allegedly intelligent people all hitting each other, apologising to and for each other so quickly and in such a small space. It was like throwing a shilling on the floor at a Scotsmans funeral. I swear I saw a corpse diving for it as well. Now let that be a lesson to you, Americans and War don't mix.
Take up origami or flower arranging or something. You leave war to us grown ups in the more civilised and pennyless nations. Like us British. Now there seems to be no one in the last couple of centuries that we haven't gone to war with. But don't worry if we've missed you out recently we'll get round to you again soon.
Norway isn't that where Trolls come from I wonder where mine flew off to. Oslo probably hoping for a Peace Prize like that nice Mr Kissenger. You must never underestimate Scandinavian wit, they'll have good old GW up for one next. | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 11:39 am |
| When are you coming to visit the states, Hal? If you have the courage, pop it up on EN and I'll meet you in Philly. Show you how an uncivilized nation gets down!!! I hate to change my normal demeanor but since you have US penis envy I figured you'd be popping in for a bit, eh.. Well, one can only hope.. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 12:21 pm |
| Sorry old boy when it comes to penis envy and shagging been there done that. I'm just left with dust now. What watched me shaving once now watches me polish my shoes.
You must remember that for nearly three quaters of you the life of the US we had an Empire second to none. Some say that we got it in a fit of absent mindedness and lost it the same way.
We are seeing the results of its demise now. The problem with yours is that its more than half over anyway and you have not even noticed. You try to hard, savour the moment, like a fine wine or a good looking woman its fleeting, its like a zephyr.
Your having to resort to the gun because the dollar doesn't buy quite what it did. Wall Street cooks the books (Enron) because the money is that harder to come by.
The military invents new enemies to keep the same old people and families in the US in the same old money. But this time its tax dollars not foreign money they are spending.
I feel for you because within my life time I'm going to see the Chinese and the Indians build power bases you and I can only dream about.
You'll be left with a rusting load of old and obsolete and defective weaponary that your in hock to the usual money lenders for. When they call in the loans you'll dance to their tune.
That's what you did to us, remember Suez, its a lifetime ago. But don't believe me believ this man instead:
"According the Israeli Hebrew radio Kol Yisrael Wednesday, Peres warned Sharon that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and turn the US against us.
At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public, because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."
Who's empire, just as long as you do as you are told, their bidding, you are useful to them, after that you could be a dirty street arab for all they care! | |
| mindmesh 2003-03-23, 12:29 pm |
| As far as an empire We don't want one. As far as the British empire, you still have penis envy.. You sound so upset that Britian isn't the superpower it used to be. Who cares.. Get over it. Right now we're on top.. No Empire last for ever. If China wasn't communist they'd be a superpower.. No Doubt about it.. If india wasn't so controlling over business they'd be a superpower. Who cares.
The next frontier is space. Earth has been conquered many of times before, put a man on the moon and then talk to me about an Empire..
This is all fine but are you gonna come to philly or not. I laid down a challenge and I figured you'd be up to it. | |
| Hal9000 2003-03-23, 1:04 pm |
| Did you say you'd got a young filly for me. Have her scrubbed and sent to my rooms with a good malt and a side of beef. I'd love to take up your kind offer when business permits.
The Empire, you've got one mate, like it or not your saddled with it. As I say you just don't recognise it. You dump half a dozen US multinationals in a country and how much of the economy do you control.
Do you think Empire is anbout Gun Boats, no its about money. Oodles of luverley money. I don't know where you got the idea about China being communist, they haven't been since the death of that old fraud Mao (Long March my arse, long time carry on bed in March more like).
India is indeed a controlled enviroment but control rest quite squarely in a few British style clubs etc just like your Capitol Hill.
You'll get the idea soon enough and when you do you'll realise all too late that it ain't coming back. Bit like your your and my taxes.
Besides the countries I and you have mentioned are all armed with the bomb so your military present no threat whatsoever to them and Capitol Hill knows they know.
I wouldn't get into a pissing contest with them as they might be just looney enough to use it. After all with those populations and being all near pesantry they have not got as much as you to lose. Now here is a technical discussion.
Any luck finding our military indescretions (arn'tI polite) yet? | |
| bearing 2003-03-23, 1:17 pm |
| RichardJW anyone? | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-03-23, 1:26 pm |
| I was just thinking that myself Bearing. | |
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| Hmmm - time to comment me thinks.
Yes Bush is a puppet - unfortunately that is life with the US electoral system. He isn't the first and won't be the last, but thankfully there are thing like Congress to make some sort of balance.
Now hal9000 - before you start slagging the US for friendly fire accidents and their leadership have a look at your own countries history .... think Galipoli where your commanders sent thousands of ANZACs to their death on a whim (and a mostly considered illegal action) .... think of the defeat in France where many lives were lost through pi$$ poor leadership .... think of that great leader Chamberlain who dragged you into a war .... think of that great pervert Mountbatten .... think of that great leader Churchill, who should have been shot for what he did to your people .... think of all those up | | |