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Should the US attack Iraq
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| ruscorp 2003-02-13, 10:47 pm |
| Kiss his arse, Sebass! | |
| Slinky 2003-02-13, 10:53 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by ruscorp
Kiss his arse, Sebass!
I'm not kissing anybody's arse.  | |
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| ccieToBe 2003-02-13, 11:07 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by Mr. Linux Guy
I think killing is wrong, unlike most people here.
Huh?  | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2003-02-13, 11:10 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
Huh?
Oh, sorry. Killing Iraqis, I mean. It doesn't really matter anyway. You guys have won; you always do. | |
| Slinky 2003-02-13, 11:41 pm |
| I noticed you are now in Iraq Randy. Does that mean you'll be taking Sadaam's spot as president of the new democracy?
It can be your own little dictatorship to force everyone over to Linux. 
Randy for president! | |
| bearing 2003-02-14, 2:36 am |
| Maybe I could log on as George Bush Jnr, and vote for the third one.. | |
| cfhennig 2003-02-16, 9:34 am |
| The timing is wrong politically, both national and international climates are not setup right.
There's no smoking pistol, just some missing weapons stock which the US gave to Iraq some 20 years ago.
Those weak audio tapes supposedly by Osama bin Laden are not helpful. Frankly, this smells like a CIA "disinformation" campaign.
Bush needs to keep Saddam's back to the wall until he gets desperate and does something really stupid that pisses off the UN.
THEN you crush him... | |
| tommylb2 2003-02-16, 10:31 am |
| What I would like is for everyone to do is live and let live.. but in real life there are those who can not do this.Like having an axe murderer running at you with the intent to kill you.You are not going to sit down and have a nice conversation with him.No matter what you do he is going to kill you.We can wait and hope. He will just go away like Hitler,but we saw what happened there.Do we learn from history?And what is has not been understood is the inspectors did not go into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction, but to find out what happened to these weapons the world knew he had.Not just a few, but tons of chemical and biological weapons unaccounted for.He has not shown what has happened these weapons.So now he has weapons like those if not much more to do as he pleases.. if not to be used by himself, sold to others who do not like the USA.. next time it will not just the twin towers,where people just like you from CEO's to Resturant workers, over 3000 men women and.. yes children.. day care centers in those buildings ,but a city because the weapons can come from anywhere,not just a plane.there are those who say the war is only about the oil.. if that where ture why did we not take it the last time? Would have been easy to do.If we wanted to,we could and know one would be able to stop it , but that is now our way.But the people who have the oil interests mostly is France.they have business dealing with Iraq and are afraid they will loose thier investments because of a war.So be careful of the choice you make today becuase you have to live with them tomorrow .. maybe... take care | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-02-16, 7:51 pm |
| We are all to assume victory is a foregone conclusion? Im sure Iraq has quite a few nasty little suprises waiting for us. | |
| ccieToBe 2003-02-16, 8:21 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
We are all to assume victory is a foregone conclusion? Im sure Iraq has quite a few nasty little suprises waiting for us.
Given the differences in military strengths, defeat seems extremely unlikely. | |
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| They shall do it ten years ago, but never too late.
If the U.N Inspector can proof the existence of NBC weapons, KILL!
I want to enjoy my life when I was about to retired, not worry about this WAR. | |
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| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
Given the differences in military strengths, defeat seems extremely unlikely.
If USA go in with all guns blazing then in the long term I believe this will result (within 20 years or so) in the defeat of the US.
"To fight and conquer in all your battles
is not supreme excellence:
Supreme excellence consists
in breaking the enemy's resistance,
without fighting."
- Sun-Tzu | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-02-17, 6:19 am |
| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
Given the differences in military strengths, defeat seems extremely unlikely.
Initialy a victory, but if Saddam knows he has only a few short hours to live who is to say he will not unleash his supposed weapons of mass destruction on Isreal? or if troops loyal to Saddam camp out in civilin houses within Bagdad? could get quite nasty. | |
| enforcer 2003-02-17, 6:59 am |
| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
Given the differences in military strengths, defeat seems extremely unlikely.
Hmmmmm Vietnam & Korea Hmmmm | |
| ANDRONDA 2003-02-17, 9:44 am |
| For fifty years the Russians said that they were going to bury the US and all of the Western Allies. Stalin was 100 times more brutal Saddam ever will be.
It was the promise of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) that kept the Russians from ever attacking the West. We did not go in and keep them from developing the bomb.
If a sovereign nation wants to develop weapons we should not necessarily go in and take them away. Nuclear technology is 50 years old now. It is only a matter of time before even the most primitive nations could manufacture them.
We should accomplish peace through strength but not necessarily exhibited by policing nations. It should be a strength displayed through the reality that if any nation nukes any other nation they will have to pay the consequences (i.e. get nuked themselves).
Evan Saddam does not want to turn his country into a parking lot. He is rich, powerful and has everything to lose. We cannot be held hostage by decisions that other countries make, nor can we prevent nations from arming. We have to let them know- you get out of line- you pay a big price. Period. | |
| ccieToBe 2003-02-17, 11:13 am |
| quote: Originally posted by enforcer
Hmmmmm Vietnam & Korea Hmmmm
I think the Gulf War would be the closest comparison. North Vietnam and North Korea both had very powerful backers to keep them going. Iraq does not. | |
| enforcer 2003-02-17, 11:44 am |
| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
I think the Gulf War would be the closest comparison. North Vietnam and North Korea both had very powerful backers to keep them going. Iraq does not.
Oh I don't know, due to it's disagreements with the DOJ i'v just heard that Bill Gates and Microsoft have just offered their backing to Iraq. | |
| ccieToBe 2003-02-17, 2:13 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by enforcer
Oh I don't know, due to it's disagreements with the DOJ i'v just heard that Bill Gates and Microsoft have just offered their backing to Iraq.
So their military will go strong for 24 hours, then crash?  | |
| enforcer 2003-02-17, 4:06 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by ccieToBe
So their military will go strong for 24 hours, then crash?
yeah but they bring the whole network down with them | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-02-17, 7:26 pm |
| I think that war is highly undesirable. Everything possible should be done to avoid war. Unfortunately, the world has allowed this thing to linger for many years, and now the situation is extremely difficult to resolve. Unlike the left and all the America haters who look for any reason to criticize us, I would place the entire burden for avoiding war upon Saddam Hussein. I really don't think America has the ability to pull a rabbit out of the hat that could magically resolve this situation entirely peacefully. The ways to avoid war are voluntary exile by Saddam, a coup or assassination of Saddam from within Iraq or complete compliance with UN demands for disarmament. None of these things are within the control of the US. Therefore, I don't really believe the ball is in our court right now. I have yet to hear any other options that make any sense. One thing I can tell you is that the more pressure Bush places upon Saddam by doing what he is doing, the more likely one of these eventualities which could avoid war are likely to occur. Therefore, in my assessment, Bush has acted perfectly. | |
| BlokWatch 2003-02-17, 8:13 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by Tech Ranger
I think that war is highly undesirable. Everything possible should be done to avoid war. Unfortunately, the world has allowed this thing to linger for many years, and now the situation is extremely difficult to resolve. Unlike the left and all the America haters who look for any reason to criticize us, I would place the entire burden for avoiding war upon Saddam Hussein. I really don't think America has the ability to pull a rabbit out of the hat that could magically resolve this situation entirely peacefully. The ways to avoid war are voluntary exile by Saddam, a coup or assassination of Saddam from within Iraq or complete compliance with UN demands for disarmament. None of these things are within the control of the US. Therefore, I don't really believe the ball is in our court right now. I have yet to hear any other options that make any sense. One thing I can tell you is that the more pressure Bush places upon Saddam by doing what he is doing, the more likely one of these eventualities which could avoid war are likely to occur. Therefore, in my assessment, Bush has acted perfectly.
Just to add my 2 cents, I think alot of this could have been avoided had the Clinton Administration acted immediatly when he initially tossed the UN inspectors out. We should have told him he had 24 hours to let them back in. That our cease fire hinged on his keeping up his end of the bargain. At that time, we were technically still at war with them, now we are not. And we let this stagnate so long, even a lot Americans forgot the principal behind it.
To me the only situation I could equate this too, would be if N.Korea crossed the DMZ. A deal is a deal, if we don't back up our own word what good are we? | |
| tommylb2 2003-02-17, 9:33 pm |
| quote: Originally posted by HOOLIGAN
We are all to assume victory is a foregone conclusion? Im sure Iraq has quite a few nasty little suprises waiting for us.
Gee I wonder how he is going to do that? He keeps saying he does not have those weapons he is going to attack us with,Surely he is not lieing just a little ? You think? naw..everyone seems to think he is telling the turth... He is such a nice guy!*Smurk*,and I guess since we are the Evil ones we deserve to die anyway.I yes I can't spell well... government schools you know... hehe.. take care |
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