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The Jfk Conspiracy
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| JFKshooting 2003-11-25, 11:55 pm |
| FIRST SOME OF THE EVIDENCE OF CONSPIRACY:
THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY
ABC just showed the warren report all over again it was total garbage they skipped things that would disprove the whole warren commissions case. Have you ever heard the details to their base of the 1 shooter theory. Its called the "Magic Bullet Theory" and is the biggest load of garbage ever produced being that the bullet takes and impossible path of zig zagging and ricocheting off air. The bullet was also found in pristine condition when a bullet fired through the wrist alone is mangled badly.
They skipped evidence that they couldn't argue EXAMPLE: when JFK was shot in the head, his head was pushed back and to the left meaning the shot came from the front and to the right, that means Oswald didn't do it.
If Oswald didn't do it that proves there were 2 shooters which the Warren Commission couldn't have because then there is no "lone crazed gunmen theory." This theory was developed because if there was more than 1 man it meant that it was planned out well and many more people were involved which meant the FBI being run by J. Edgar Hoover would have to have known because Hoover kept tabs on EVERYBODY. This was the only way the FBI could get away with not knowing.
The thing that makes it a conspiracy is that the government saw evidence that would prove more than 1 shooter existed and they didn't investigate it.
Second, fifteen major secret service security violations were made that day and they were all made because they had been ordered to violate their own procedure. All the doctors who saw JFKs wounds said the headshot came from the front that meant Oswald couldn't have shot him being he was supposedly in the building behind him.
The autopsy photos that the government had showed the back right side of his head, they have to be fake because all the doctors saw the back of the head on the right side gone. Photographic experts say those photos were faked.
Witnesses heard more than 3 shots but were told not but 20 mins after the shooting by the police that they had heard echoes and had not seen gunfire from the grassy knowl.
Oswald was said to have got off 3 shots with a manuel bolt action rifle with a defective scope within 5.6 seconds and had that kind of accuracy while shooting through a tree at a moving target. One word describes that IMPOSSIBLE unless your the best gunmen in the world.
Jack Ruby the man who killed Oswald called the Dallas police the day before he shot Oswald to change the time and place at which they were transferring Oswald because he was going to kill him.
Oswald went to the FBI headquarters in Dallas the day before JFKs assassination and told them JFK would be shot yet the FBI destroyed the memo and did nothing even though they knew Oswald was a pro-communist and had spent time in Russia.
Jack Ruby when questioned by the Warren Commission volunteered to testify if they offered him protection in Washington yet they did nothing.
The ballistics test showed Oswald had not even fired a rifle the day of JFKs assassination.
During the 12 hours that they interrogated Oswald they didn't record a single thing or have a laywer present which would make all of it worthless in court.
When the FBI took "Oswalds rifle" they didn't find his fingerprints on it anywhere. But a week later after he sat in the Dallas morgue there is suddenly a palm print found.
The military people performing the autopsy were coached through it by higher ranking officials who told them not to record certain things or told them not to investigate certain wounds. Some of you probably think what were they doing? In the military you follow orders without question.
Those are ONLY A FEW FACTS about JFKs assassination. Now i ask you was there a conspiracy?
If you wish to know why make a topic under it and i will do my best to post or if you want email me at funyguy112@yahoo.com | |
| KiwiPete 2003-11-26, 2:14 am |
| Since you're obviously interested in the subject, this is from a document called FBI Top Secret Files. Search for it on Kazaa or DC++ or somewhere like that.
It craps on about aliens for a few pages, then this:
This is from a 45 minute lecture on 11-17-89 in Los Angeles, California. Speaking was Mr. Milton William Cooper.
"Between '70 and '73, in Operation Majority it stated verbatim that President Kennedy ordered MJ-12 to cease the importation and sale of drugs to the American people, that he ordered them to implement a plan to reveal the presence of aliens to the American people within the following year.
His assassination was ordered by the policy committee of the Vilderbergers. MJ-12 implemented the plan and carried it out in Dallas. It involved agents of the CIA, Divis- ion-5 of the FBI, the Secret Service, and the office of Naval Intelligence. President Kennedy was killed by the driver of his car, his name was William Greer, he used a recoilless, electrically operated, gas-powered assassination pistol that was spe-
cially built by the CIA to assassinate people at close range.
It fired an explosive pellet which injected a large amount of shellfish poison into the brain, and that is why, in the documents, it stated that President Kennedy's brain was removed. If you've studied the case, you will find that indeed his brain disappeared. The reason for that is so that they would not find the particles of the exploding pellet or the shellfish poison in his brain which would have proved conclusively that Lee Harvy Oswald was NOT the assassin. In fact, Lee Harvy Oswald never fired a shot, he was the patsy."
A muffled question was barely heard coming from the front of the room which in essence asked, "What about all the people in the press and others who were in Dallas and who saw the assassination? Couldn't they tell where the shot came from, why didn't they come forward? There must have been plenty."
"There was, we know that there was at least 18 who were all murdered within 2-years of the event. The odds of that happening are 1 in 300,000 trillion," Cooper replied.
Again a muffled question, "Why did the DRIVER have to shoot Kennedy?"
"Because the other fools missed! There were a total of 3-shots fired at President Kennedy, one hit him in the throat and didn't kill him and 2 of them hit John Connelly [sp]. The one that was fired from the grassy knoll hit the president in the throat. The other 2-shots came from directly behind the limousine, not the school book depository building, and hit Governor Connelly. Governor Connelly, in intelligence community circles, is known as a 'can do' man, because he took 2-hits and still kept his mouth shut."
"How is it that the driver, sitting on the front, left-hand side of the car was able to blow off the right side of Kennedy's brain when the bullet actually entered in, and it would have been virtually impossible..."
Another question asking, "In the film of the assassination which was examined greatly by experts, why didn't THEY conclude that Kennedy's driver shot him?", to which Cooper asked, "Examined by WHO greatly?", and continued, "Most of the film that you can purchase has that segment cut out, and you can always tell it by the person running in the background, they'll run up to here... all of a sudden they'll be down here... running. You will see in most of the clips that you've ever seen on television, or in the movies, or that you're able to get your hands on, you'll see William Greer start to turn like this...", then a muffled comment from the audience, then Cooper answered, "That's because they clipped it out! And on a lot of them, I'll bet you most of you, every time you've seen the clip on television, never looked at the driver anyway. If you're really honest with yourself, and with me, you know your eyes were right on Kennedy."
Personally, I think Michael Jackson did it.
He's an alien.
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| bearing 2003-11-26, 3:29 am |
| Ok then hands up all those who'll be watching the driver from now on? | |
| thecomeons 2003-11-26, 5:15 am |
| i never watch my drivers. i expect the o/s to do the dirty work. | |
| enforcer 2003-11-26, 5:26 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
Ok then hands up all those who'll be watching the driver from now on?
was that Butler from on the buses?
coz it's always the butler who did it 
where did you say the cloakroom was? | |
| Papiya 2003-11-26, 7:38 am |
| Conspiracy? Probably.
Relevance today? Questionable. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-11-26, 3:55 pm |
| If there was a conspiracy then it means the people are not in power in the government. Then or now. This means people elected leaders are not in control, and it means the government can dispose of anybody whenever they feel fit. This means the government doesn't care about us and never will. We are just here so they can tax us and so they can send us to fight there wars to make them a couple billion dollars. Politicians are no longer interested in whats best for the people.
Aliens i have not heard that theory i think thats a little far fetched. But there is no doubt in my mind there was a conspiracy involving the major powers in the government including but not limited to: the CIA, the FBI, Lyndon Johnson Vice president, the Joint Cheifs of Staff, and the ONI. Outside the government there was the Mafia, anti-communists, pro-communists, and big business. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-11-26, 4:14 pm |
| WHAT IS MJ-12?
You mention this several times what is this and who is directly in control of it? Was it an operation supervised by the CIA or was it something all on its own. | |
| KiwiPete 2003-11-26, 4:24 pm |
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Originally posted by JFKshooting
WHAT IS MJ-12?
You mention this several times what is this and who is directly in control of it? Was it an operation supervised by the CIA or was it something all on its own.
Well, I didn't mention it.
That was just a cut-and-paste from the original document.
Not really interested in alien conspiracies. There's no credible link there to JFK.
MJ12?
Dunno. Try asking Google.
I think the "MJ" stands for Michael Jackson & the "12" is the age of his latest boyfriend.
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| Majestic-12
http://www.totse.com/en/fringe/index.html
(third link up from bottom of page)
Oh and don't let Papiya get to you. She's got a 'my opinion/view is right' answer for everything. Politics, Americans, Foreign Policy, social-economic structures, Slavery, World history, Sex, etc... you name it, she knows it.
Well, at least in her mind she does.... | |
| azimuth40 2003-11-26, 8:23 pm |
| Gee that site has the basis for every plot that the X-files screen writers ever did. The smoking man did he for sure. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-11-26, 9:03 pm |
| If you ever want to see a good movie see the movie JFK. It is a good movie explaining more of the why JFK was killed and who was most likely to have done it. It shows the powers working against JFK.
Did I mention its a true story? | |
| JFKshooting 2003-11-26, 9:39 pm |
| Witnesses of the JFK assassination that did not say they had heard only 3 shots and had seen smoke and muzzleblasts from behind the fence on the grassy gnoll were not used in the warren commission report. Over two-thirds of the witnesses saw gunfire come from behind the grassy gnoll but they were never called to testify of this. When witnesses said they had heard 4 or more shots they were told that was untrue by people who hadn't been there and they were told this 20 mins after the shooting of JFK.
Why would the Committee assigned to investigate the assassination ignore obvious evidence of a second shooter? When they ignore all evidence against their ideas and believe everything for it what kind of investigation is that?
I'll tell you, its not an investigation its a setup to stuff 1 side of the assassination down your throat and to protect those who are truly responsible for the shooting. | |
| bearing 2003-11-27, 3:30 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
If you ever want to see a good movie see the movie JFK. It is a good movie explaining more of the why JFK was killed and who was most likely to have done it. It shows the powers working against JFK.
Did I mention its a true story?
Yeah just like Braveheart. | |
| azimuth40 2003-11-27, 10:15 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
Yeah just like Braveheart.
You mean it wasn't true? Gee and I thought they had finally revealed what they wore under their kilts.
Hangling loose is "FREEDOM" | |
| enforcer 2003-11-27, 10:33 am |
| nice to see spid back in the forum | |
| azimuth40 2003-11-27, 11:28 am |
| Yeah thats right we haven't seen that orange furball avitar for a while. Welcome back Spid | |
| MistyRing 2003-11-28, 7:18 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
If you ever want to see a good movie see the movie JFK. It is a good movie explaining more of the why JFK was killed and who was most likely to have done it. It shows the powers working against JFK.
Did I mention its a true story?
My arse. It's complete hollywood fantasy. Is Oliver Stone known for making factual documentries or pure-profit blockbuster movies?
Then there's the known inaccuracies. The film was full of them, in particular the "magic" bullet that supposedly zig-zagged all over the place. Put JFK and Connelly in their correct positions and what do you have? One straight line. Amazing. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-11-28, 8:24 pm |
| Its only a straight line if you watched the ABC version which changed the postion of Connollys wrist and who knows what else. The positions in the movie were taken from the Zapruder Film which was taken when it happened not from a computer model 50 years later.
Even if it was a straight line then why do the autopsy photos show a small slit in the throat that should be a huge gash. That shot came from the front not the back like the Magic bullet theory suggests. Second, how can the "magic" bullet be in PRISTINE condition?
So some of the movie was Olivers opinion he didn't change the facts in the shooting he made his own decisions on the who and why. The shooting evidence was not changed. | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-01, 8:06 am |
| The computer model guy took 10 years to create his model and ensure it was correct. You think Oliver Stone put that much effort into his research? | |
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| It was really Marilyn Monroe's Ghost. But that theory is never talked about.
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| enforcer 2003-12-01, 8:48 am |
| tell me more | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-01, 7:32 pm |
| 10 years wow what a waste all that time and its all wrong what a waste. The computer model is not based off the Zapruder Film which is the actual footage of what happened its based off the Warren Report which is what is in question here.
The computer model misses some key things such as JFKs head being pushed back and to the left. It also misses some things such as how the bullet stopped in JFK for 1.6 seconds. (1.6 because it was 1.6 secs before Connelly reacted after JFK had been hit.) Not only that but Connollys wrist is misplaced and who knows what else.
An expert worked on the Zapruder Film for several years (I'll check how many) but it was several.
Oswald is had to have done the shooting in 5.6 seconds with a manuel bolt action rifle(time established by Zapruder Film). Let me remind you: hes shooting through a foliage/tree, the scope on the rifle was misaligned (badly), and he was shooting at a moving target. Did I mention FBI trained sharpshooters specializing in snipering couldn't come close to Oswalds performance. They tried at least 2 sets of tests and they all FAILED.
He never received sniper training and his marine buddies said he was a terrible shot. And thats probably with an M-1 garand which you don't have to completely re-aim after firing unlike a bolt action rifle. He was a radar operater in the Marine core. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-01, 7:38 pm |
| PLEASE VOTE ON QUESTION! | |
| azimuth40 2003-12-01, 7:58 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
PLEASE VOTE ON QUESTION!
I can't I am trapped on the mothership between Bigfoot and Elvis | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-02, 8:31 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
10 years wow what a waste all that time and its all wrong what a waste. The computer model is not based off the Zapruder Film which is the actual footage of what happened its based off the Warren Report which is what is in question here.
The computer model misses some key things such as JFKs head being pushed back and to the left. It also misses some things such as how the bullet stopped in JFK for 1.6 seconds. (1.6 because it was 1.6 secs before Connelly reacted after JFK had been hit.) Not only that but Connollys wrist is misplaced and who knows what else.
An expert worked on the Zapruder Film for several years (I'll check how many) but it was several.
Oswald is had to have done the shooting in 5.6 seconds with a manuel bolt action rifle(time established by Zapruder Film). Let me remind you: hes shooting through a foliage/tree, the scope on the rifle was misaligned (badly), and he was shooting at a moving target. Did I mention FBI trained sharpshooters specializing in snipering couldn't come close to Oswalds performance. They tried at least 2 sets of tests and they all FAILED.
He never received sniper training and his marine buddies said he was a terrible shot. And thats probably with an M-1 garand which you don't have to completely re-aim after firing unlike a bolt action rifle. He was a radar operater in the Marine core.
The ABC documentary answered all of these claims so I'm not goung to reiterate it all again. I think you prefer the conspiracy theories too much anyway. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-02, 7:26 pm |
| YOU MISSED THE POINT OF THAT. THE POINT WAS OSWALD COULDN'T HAVE DONE THE SHOOTING AND THAT ABCS INFO WAS INCORRECT. THEY SAID OSWALD A RADAR OPERATOR IN THE MARINE CORE WAS A SHARPSHOOTER. WHILE HIS BUDDYS WHO WERE ACTUALLY THERE WITH HIM WHILE HE WAS SHOOTING SAID HE WAS AT BEST A MODERATE MARKSMEN. THEY MISPLACED GOVERNOR CONOLLYS WRIST IN THAT FILM AND DIDN'T SHOW JFKS HEADWOUND YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE IF THEY DID YOU WOULD IMMEDIATELY KNOW IT WAS GARBAGE. THEY ONLY SUPPORTED THE GOVERNMENTS SIDE THEY NEVER BROUGHT EVIDENCE AGAINST THE WARREN COMMISSION THEY HELPED IT!
THE MOTION OF THE HEAD PROVES A FRONTAL SHOT THE HEAD WOUND ITSELF PROVES A FRONTAL SHOT BUT NONE OF THAT WAS COVERED BY ABC. 26 TRAINED MEDICAL PERSONAL AT PARKLAND MEDICAL HOSPITAL IN DALLAS SAID THE BACK OF THE HEAD WAS BLASTED OUT INDICATING A FOWARD SHOT AND THE THROAT WOUND WAS AN ENTRY WOUND.
THE NAVAL DOCTOR AND BETHESDA NAVAL HOSPITAL WHO EXAMINED THE AUTOPSY WAS NOT A BALASTICS EXPERT AND VOLUNTARILLY BURNED HIS FIRST AUTOPSY REPORT. NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE DOCTORS DOING THE AUTOPSY AT BATHESDA NAVAL HOSPITAL WERE BEING ORDERED WHAT TO DO BY NON-MEDICAL PERSONEL.
PHOTOGRAPHIC EXPERTS HAVE SAID THAT THE AUTOPSY PHOTOS PRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT ARE FAKE AND THE DOCTORS ALSO SAY THAT THE BACK OF THE HEAD WAS GONE UNLIKE WHAT THE PHOTOS HAD SHOWN.
I'D LIKE TO HERE OF HOW YOU EXPLAIN HOW OSWALD DID THAT WELL OF A SHOOTING JOB WITHIN 5.6 SECS THROUGH A TREE WITH A MANUEL BOLT ACTION RIFLE WITH A BADLY MISALIGNED SCOPE. THE GETTING OFF THE 3 SUPPOSED SHOTS IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE AND HE HAD TO AIM THE GUN WITH PINPOINT ACCURACY WITH A MISALIGNED SCOPEAND HE SHOOTING AT A MOVING TARGET!!!!! IMPOSSIBLE SIMPLY IMPOSSIBLE
THE ABC VERSION MUCH LIKE THE WARREN REPORT HAS MORE HOLES IN IT THAN SWISS CHEESE. IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT SINGLE BULLET THEORY WHERE THE BULLET STOPS IN JFKS THROAT AND MAKES SEVERAL RICHOCHETS OFF AIR AND TURNS IN MIDAIR THEN YOU NEED TO RE-EXAMINE MUCH OF WHAT YOU THINK. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-02, 7:43 pm |
| WHY DO I PREFER CONSPIRACY THEORIES?
Ok you have me there. Maybe its because I believe in facts, hard evidence, and common sense. Thats 3 things the Warren report lacks.
Common sense- Magic Bullet theory is garbage- 1 bullet causing 7 wounds having to stop in midair and change direction. Hard evidence- the Zapruder film shows his head being pushed back and to the left proving a frontal shot. Hard evidence-26 doctors saw the back of the head blasted out and a throat entry wound. Facts-Warren Commission never accepted evidence indicating more than 3 shots. Facts-Warren Commission would not take Jack Ruby(Oswalds assassin) back to Washington DC to testify. Facts- the Warren Commission based its results on the "magic bullet theory" which is an incredible fantasy which could never happen. Facts- the Secret Service had been ordered to violate standard protection codes on that day. Facts- Every FBI building had received a messege saying that JFK was going to be shot in Dallas yet they did absolutely nothing.
ONCE YOU CONCLUDE THERE WAS 4 SHOTS AND ANOTHER SHOOTER THERE HAD TO BE A CONSPIRACY BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT NEVER ACCEPTED EVIDENCE INDICATING THIS. ITS NOT MUCH OF AN INVESTIGATION IF YOU ONLY USE EVIDENCE THAT YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SEE- IN FACT THAT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A COVER-UP BEING THAT ITS SUPPOSED TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND IT OUTRIGHT LIED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. THEY CHANGED EYEWITNESSES TESTIMONYS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE.
I HAVE MORE. JUST KEEP BRINGING UP ARGUMENTS FOR THEIR SIDE AND I'LL DEFEAT THEM. | |
| KiwiPete 2003-12-02, 7:58 pm |
| Maybe the bullet bounced off JFK's head AND HIT THE CAPS LOCK KEY ON YOUR KEYBOARD.
(about the poll - not everyone here is from America, so many of us miss programmes on the ABC. Because I haven't seen the show, I don't have enough information to comment and/or vote. I'm sure others have refrained from voting for the same reason) | |
| enforcer 2003-12-03, 4:44 am |
| NO, I refrained from voting because it is a damn stupid question, with not enough options.
It happened two years before I was born, how the hell can I make a judgement, especially when I am not privy to all the facts.
Now ask me about The Princess Diana incident and I might offer an opinion. | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-03, 5:32 am |
| Conspiracy? Me? I dunno... | |
| azimuth40 2003-12-03, 4:28 pm |
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| JFKshooting 2003-12-03, 7:41 pm |
| You say you can't make judgement on it because it happened 2 years before you were born well guess what it happened 35 years before I was born. Look at how much I know about it.
Schools always go with Lee Harvey Oswald never touching anything about the actual case they never explain the magic bullet theory or anything they just say he did it. In school they teach us a lie in that he did this.
If you examine the case then you know he couldn't have done it alone and being that the Warren Commission tried to cover up evidence suggesting a second gunmen then you know the government was lying to the people.
Here are a few key questions:
What keeps them from doing it again? And don't tell me the media will report it because they didn't report it with JFK. The American media might as well be the government because thats there source on nearly every story and the government tells them what they can say and what they can't(tv). And if you say well not all news channels and papers will go with it then the ones that go against it are so few that they are considered wrong by the public.
Do we the people still have a say in what our government does? Its pretty obvious by now that even if the public disagees with something that the government officials really don't care.
Is this still a government for the people and by the people?
Don't get my wrong I love this country, but the people who run it which are not the public figures seen on tv I'm not so caring for. Who pays for politicians campaigns? Businesses
The government and the people are separated now, who really controls who? That is the most important question of all, who really steers this country and do they do it in the best interests of the masses? | |
| azimuth40 2003-12-03, 8:25 pm |
| Lets see 40th anniversery last month. 35 years before you were born. You are writing this from nursery school and you are 5 years old. I'm impressed that you figured out that it was not grover and big bird behind the grassy knoll. | |
| KiwiPete 2003-12-03, 8:57 pm |
| Do you go to sleep worrying about this stuff?
Must.....not....say.."get a life"
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| enforcer 2003-12-04, 6:44 am |
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Originally posted by azimuth40
Lets see 40th anniversery last month. 35 years before you were born. You are writing this from nursery school and you are 5 years old. I'm impressed that you figured out that it was not grover and big bird behind the grassy knoll.
Grassy Knoll, 5 year old, it must be
http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/enforcer/teletubbies.jpg | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-04, 8:04 pm |
| Outsmarted by a 15 year old who cares about his country...
Someones dissing me about get a life? well hate me for having something that i have an opinion about. Maybe I find this interesting that people in my government are willing to send me to my death 10000 miles away so they can make some money! | |
| AMDWiZARD 2003-12-04, 8:24 pm |
| Dont know if you saw my post....
www.vaticanassassins.org
got some good stuff, it'll make you think.
Funny how you think we send troops overseas for money. Money isnt the half of it. We have all the money we will ever need.
But as long as people are blind then evil can do its will.
Its obvious the people believe "The Church" AKA the Vatican has no significant power, however it is the other way around.
However you can believe what you want.
Im not an "advertiser" of ANY site, but you will see who controls the world.
Believe what you will, I choose to believe it because it just makes sense.
Check it out.
AMDWiZARD | |
| enforcer 2003-12-05, 4:46 am |
| AMD, long time no see. | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-05, 7:41 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
Outsmarted by a 15 year old who cares about his country...
Someones dissing me about get a life? well hate me for having something that i have an opinion about. Maybe I find this interesting that people in my government are willing to send me to my death 10000 miles away so they can make some money!
Have you considered *not* joining the army when you leave school? That might be one way round the problem. | |
| thecomeons 2003-12-05, 9:23 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by KiwiPete
Must.....not....say.."get a life"
do you mind if i do?
get a life
if there was a conspiracy, the people who conspired together probably aren't involved in what ever they were involved in at the time, or dead themselves (either theirown assassination or just via accident or illness). | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-07, 8:18 pm |
| Ummmmm.. it seems someone hasn't heard of the draft!
Just not join the military lol what if they draft you! | |
| enforcer 2003-12-08, 7:03 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
Ummmmm.. it seems someone hasn't heard of the draft!
Just not join the military lol what if they draft you!
Plead mental instability. | |
| MistyRing 2003-12-08, 7:36 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
Ummmmm.. it seems someone hasn't heard of the draft!
Just not join the military lol what if they draft you!
My knowledge of the US armed forces isn't that extensive but when did they last draft people into military service? | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-08, 5:03 pm |
| I think the last time the draft was in effect was around Vietnam and has been implemented since. Although they can implement it at any time | |
| Papiya 2003-12-08, 5:09 pm |
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Originally posted by JFKshooting
I think the last time the draft was in effect was around Vietnam and has been implemented since. Although they can implement it at any time
And Americans can move to Canada in droves like they did the last time as well, then get a mass reprieve a few years later. I think few people in America would put up with the draft today. One of the reasons America has such an excellent army is probably due to the fact that the people serving are those that *want* to serve. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-10, 7:06 pm |
| I'm not disagree with papiya I think shes right on the want to serve. Thats because right now all of them joined the military voluntarily.
Now draft dodging is actually ILLEGAL(i think) but I believe it was Jimmy Carter who pardoned all who dodged the draft into Vietnam. | |
| JFKshooting 2003-12-13, 10:25 am |
| Well I've pretty much said what I've wanted to but if anybody has questions I'll be glad to hear them.
By the way Lyndon Johnson was quoted at saying this: "Just get me elected and I'll give you your war." I'm not exactly who he said it to if I remember correctly it was the Joint Chiefs of Staff. During a White house reception in December of 1963. | |
| bearing 2003-12-15, 4:20 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by JFKshooting
Well I've pretty much said what I've wanted to but if anybody has questions I'll be glad to hear them.
Is that you that stands at the end of the platform at my local railway station, flask in one hand and camera in the other? |
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