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| =:WhiplasH:= 2003-11-26, 5:24 am |
| What an excellent read...got me through a whole double lesson of computing!
damn wot a fine pic... 
Have you got a larger copy .. You'll make me very happy man =) slimfat7@yahoo.com
- (i'm not a screwed up psycho)
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| enforcer 2003-11-26, 5:27 am |
| obviously one post per '.' then | |
| =:WhiplasH:= 2003-11-26, 5:32 am |
| bloody school computers are crap!
however more than one pic would be cool
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| Papiya 2003-11-26, 7:35 am |
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Originally posted by Qivalon
Sorry, but Slavery did *not* end after the Civil War. After the Civil War there was a period called Reconstruction which saw an improvement in the conditions of the blacks. However, some lawmakers decided that this was not acceptable and enacted laws called the "Black Codes" which in effect re-enabled slavery in everything but name. Most blacks were was free in 1930 as they were in 1830. They had no real rights, were not really regarded as human beings and for the most part were slaves to the whites, although not in the literal sense of one person owning another
You are falling into old trap of throwing in your opinion of what happened.
The laws you talk about were designed to slow down the progress of equal rights for all americans, and yes it was made by an all caucasion womanless court. America has a terrible habit of passing on the buck to the next generation.
Slavery did end after the american Civil War, make no mistake about that. There were no longer government supported Slave Houses, no longer warrents for arrest for run away slaves, no longer were you allowed to ship and or sell people. The laws you talk about were unjust, and that is granted, but that is not slavery.
And all this talk about slave history can't derail your comment about Hitler's Germany and the minorities in the US at the time. Try talking to someone who has survived Hitler while in Germany, and then come back and compare notes to a minority who grew up in the US at the same time.
In the mean time I will go back to reading everyone's post in quiet, and I hope your world expands more that just what is written down on paper.
Happy Turkey Day all!
Qivalon~
My point was not that the *exact* same thing occured, but that a similar mindset was at work . . . the U.S. had no more regard for the rights of blacks than did the Germans for the rights of Jews. No, they were not gassed en masse, but a similar thing was occuring. Who suffered more in the 40's? The Jews, obviously. But it is outright hypocrisy to say that the situations did not bear some similarities. Americans could say they were fighting for the freedom of the Jews while keeping the blacks under the same system of apartheid that was going on in Germany prior to the Final Solution being devised. A black in America could go on to fight for his country bravely and come home and still be regarded as a nigger and not a man. A white man would generally not go to jail for killing a black man, and they had no real rights apart from those that were enacted in congress, but were impossible to acheive in reality.
"Slavery" did not end with the civil war for all practical purposes. To say that it did is like saying that women were granted equal rights when universal suffrage was passed. They did not. The BEGINNINGS of the abolishment of slavery were begun, but they were still in every way subservient to whites and had no real way to rise above their situation without help from their oppressors. If you were deprived of all land, money, political power, the target of terrorist threats and actions ignored hy the government whenever you tried to exercise the "rights" that you had been given, you would be a slave. Not a slave in the sense of one person literally owning another, but your kind would still be slaves to another race. What you are doing is using semantics. By law, at one point a slave was not considered a man, but a piece of property . . . this is semantics . . . now blacks are legal human beings. Slavery, like humanity, does not begin or end with governmental edicts . . . they are conditions and not mere legal technicalities. | |
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| Yes a new pic would be nice. Although a fan of window shopping, I do however prefer something I can get my hands on ;-) | |
| bearing 2003-11-27, 3:43 am |
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Originally posted by RussS
Although a fan of window shopping, I do however prefer something I can get my hands on ;-)
I always tell my wife that there's no problem with window shopping as long as I don't put my rolled up newspaper through the letterbox. | |
| enforcer 2003-11-27, 4:42 am |
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Originally posted by bearing
I always tell my wife that there's no problem with window shopping as long as I don't put my rolled up newspaper through the letterbox.
Trouble is, last time my wife went window shopping, she came back with two french doors, skylight and new window for the front room. | |
| =:WhiplasH:= 2003-11-27, 6:51 am |
| Enforcer plz update the Carputer page on your website, (btw the pics aren't showing)
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| enforcer 2003-11-27, 7:54 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by =:WhiplasH:=
Enforcer plz update the Carputer page on your website, (btw the pics aren't showing)
Pics should now be showing. Sorry about that.
It's just a throw together at the moment, will do a proper job when I get a bit more time, and actual photos of the current install | |
| jkhnwspec 2003-11-27, 8:08 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
Pics should now be showing. Sorry about that.
It's just a throw together at the moment, will do a proper job when I get a bit more time, and actual photos of the current install
Uhhh.... your E-Mail address on there doesn't work either. 
Bounces back saying you don't exist.  | |
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