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How do you ask for a raise?
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| I am still a student so I am not very familiar with this subject.. but I was thinking about it and made me wonder as how you ask for raises to your boss. How often do you do?
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| azimuth40 2003-11-16, 10:11 pm |
| If is a big company then you normally don't have to. You might haggle over the amount if you think that you are worth more but the timing is pretty standard. After your probation is up, after your annual review which is a standard fiduciary item, and after a promotion or major increase in responsibility.
If it is a small company then use big companies as a guide along with playing it by ear. First I would find out what your manager thinks of your work. Many will tell you if you have to ask too many times then it is time to leave unless there is a hiring and/or wage freeze in your company. You should at least be looking for the standard cost of living allowance "COLA" of a couple percent so that you are not sliding backwards. | |
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| thanks for the swift reply! Another question.. I am sure you try to get certifications and learn other materials for you to advance in your work field. Many companies pay for these trainings. How do you ask the one in charge if you they could pay for the training and everything? Do you compose some kind of report and present it to them formally?
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| azimuth40 2003-11-16, 10:57 pm |
| In most companies it is in the company policy manual given to you by human resources. It is part of the benefits package along with things like insurance, paid vacation, sick leave etc. Most companies place a rider on things that are reimbursed i.e. you must pass and it must add to your worth to the company and you must commit to not leaving for x period of time. | |
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| Many companies in India, have policy saying that if you pass, you can claim. Most of us take the exam and cliam the money.
Though I have completed many good certs, i didn't get the pay hike and also my role also ddidn't change.
It all depends..as soon as you get new skills try to get into a role which utlize ur skills and u get good pay too......
I am holding
MCSE,SCSA,CCNP,CCDP,CCSP,CCIP and the big one CCIE (R&S). I didn't see these made big change to pocket.
Still I run behing link up/down and talking to Telco. I get simple question from my boss when I say I am planning for CCIE Voice, What is the need..It is not priority now.....I felt..he is feeling unsecure........
I am poor Indian getting 600$ per month. If I need to get good pay..I need to jump from current employer, which creates some pain on my heart since I have started my job from this one only............Just thinking
Confused geek
Vinny | |
| peterd 2003-11-17, 3:57 am |
| Hello,
like anything else for 'the boss', do your research (how much do other companies pay, how much are your workmates earning, what additional skills/qualifications do you hold now that you didn't last year, what work have done recently, etc) then write it up in an offical report.
Add comments showing why you think you're worth it and what you want to achieve, it'll help if your current employer can use these new skills.
Hold that in the background and ask informally face to face, preferrably in a quiet period, say after hours, where you can sit and chat comfortably with no interruptions. I'd chose a day where everythind went right and he/she's in a good mood.
Maybe approach along the lines of "could you give some advice please...".
If he/she wants it in writing than present your report immediately. If he/she wants time to think about it then wait a few days and then present your report to your boss.
If you still get no joy then present it to his/her boss with a copy to your boss.
Hopefully you can talk with your boss although sometimes it's very difficult as it depends on personalities. I get away with all sorts of things but my boss knows I'm good at my job and I'm close to twice his age.
So although I show him due respect for his position he feels a little uncomfortable about pushing me around. I know I can ask him anything at any time but if I want a successfull outcome than I'd still choose my time carefully.
It works great for me! :-)
Good Luck
Peter | |
| enforcer 2003-11-17, 5:17 am |
| Just say "show me the money" | |
| ClintonN 2003-11-17, 3:18 pm |
| I get my boss drunk take advantage of her while filming it. Then ask... But then it usually reduces my pay. | |
| ruscorp 2003-11-17, 3:41 pm |
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Originally posted by ejoa
I am still a student so I am not very familiar with this subject.. but I was thinking about it and made me wonder as how you ask for raises to your boss. How often do you do?
Thanks!
At my job, to be quite honest. You just don't. | |
| jimbo2002 2003-11-17, 4:09 pm |
| I think if you are doing a job that requires a lot of training or skill and you are good at it and not easy to replace, reliable, dependable etc, then asking for a raise might work. It may be better to sound it out with someone who has the ear of the boss. I wouldnt start filling in reports about how good you are and why you should get more money, frankly I think you run the risk of being branded a troublemaker if you go that route. If its a small company tread carefuly, but for larger companys, as was said before, you would get some sort of performance review where all the usual factors, output,quality, performance, attitude, attendance will be looked at. Try to get some sort of track record before asking for things like paying for certs etc. Just my thoughts on it. | |
| enforcer 2003-11-17, 4:21 pm |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
At my job, to be quite honest. You just don't.
that's nothing to do with your job, you just don't  | |
| ClintonN 2003-11-17, 4:38 pm |
| As far as them paying for your tests and additional training, you should ask about this before you take the job. For me my job doesn't pay that great but they reimburse me for my tests and they pay for my training classes. The training classes I got last year totalled over 6000$ which to me is just as good as if it was on my check. | |
| ruscorp 2003-11-17, 4:46 pm |
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Originally posted by enforcer
that's nothing to do with your job, you just don't
Yout lucky to get a paycheck at the end of the week at my job. | |
| ClintonN 2003-11-17, 5:06 pm |
| I try to hide the money I get then my pimp slaps me.. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-11-17, 8:41 pm |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Just say "show me the money"
I heard the phrase "Help me help you" works well.
Cheers,
TB | |
| curiousgeorge 2003-11-18, 12:26 am |
| Outside of the standard annaul raise, the best time to ask for an increase in pay is when you are given additional responsibilities.
In a non-confrontational way, when your boss says you will have more responsibilities, tell him you would like an increase in salary to reflect the increase in responsibilities.
The times it's happened to me, I got a raise every time.
If you don't ask for more money, they'll walk all over you every time they need someone to do more work.
There is a lot of truth to the saying: The sqeaky wheel gets the grease. | |
| enforcer 2003-11-18, 2:31 pm |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
Yout lucky to get a paycheck at the end of the week at my job.
what do you expect if you can't even type properly? | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-11-18, 2:54 pm |
| One of the execs came in here once and bluntly stated "As far as the corporation is concerned everyone here is on a two week contract. If you receive a paycheck, your contract has been renewed."
With wisdom like that leading us forth, morale was never higher...
Cheers,
TB | |
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