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| One working for a baby bell making good wages considering options for the world of IT. Very diverse, experience includes 14 years of CATV communications, Telephone communications, A+ certified, and several course taken from accredited schools but no official certifications including, CIW, MCSE. Familiar with Unix and Oracle. Currently in year 2 of an Information systems degree. Presently working as Tier 2 support for LAN and customized web, client and mainframe applications proprietary to this baby bell. Company currently offering cash buy-out and medical coverage for employees to walk. Passion is in programming web and hardware but jobs are going overseas. Can do anything but looking for suggestions from seasoned professionals. The buyout equals 6 months of living cost. What would you do?? | |
| thecomeons 2003-11-13, 4:24 pm |
| do you like the work you are presently doing?
do you have what it takes, presently, to build fancy-enough websites?
how long do you have to decide? | |
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| I have two days to decide. Customized Webdev is not a problem. Yes, I enjoy what I do but I am looking to specialize in one area that does not compromise my lifestyle or that of my family. Im thinking Oracle Dev, as it allows server, DB, web and programming interaction. | |
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| Do what makes you happy.
Do you like the company?
Do you like the offer?
Do you like what you do and who you do if for?
Could you do what you like somewhere else?
Can you hold out until you get your degree?
Lots of things to consider and no one can tell you what to do. You know your situation better than anyone, and you should sit down with your family, discuss it with them and all of the pros/cons that affects all of the family, then decide.
People in this forum dont know you. Bottom line: Take care of your family and do what makes you happy.
2 things: You are responsible for providing for your family AND you should be happy everyday when you hit the doors at 8am-5pm. If you can do both, thats the route to go for me. If you cant do both, keep looking until you can. But again, only you can decide. | |
| Jonojacker 2003-11-14, 6:09 am |
| 1. Take buy out.
2. Get degree.
3. Move overseas.
Jono
www.compcerts.com | |
| mindmesh 2003-11-14, 9:21 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by kmb40
I have two days to decide. Customized Webdev is not a problem. Yes, I enjoy what I do but I am looking to specialize in one area that does not compromise my lifestyle or that of my family. Im thinking Oracle Dev, as it allows server, DB, web and programming interaction.
The only problem with specializing is that companies want one person to do twice as much work. don't get "too" specialized in a single niche.
Ultimately I would take the buy out and attempt to start my own little business. That is provided the buy out was generous enough to allow this. | |
| MistyRing 2003-11-14, 10:20 am |
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Originally posted by mindmesh
The only problem with specializing is that companies want one person to do twice as much work. don't get "too" specialized in a single niche.
Yeah but most of the best paid jobs are looking for "specialist" skills. You have to be careful not to go down any 'blind alleys' though. I once met an ex Assembler Programmer (I think) who was working behind the counter in Tower Records having failed to re-skill in a shrinking market. | |
| jimbo2002 2003-11-14, 3:32 pm |
| Talk about putting you on the spot, two days to decide on something like that, thats pressure. If it was just yourself then you could take the offer and take your chances outside but if you have a family then its not just you. It may not be the best job, but if it puts bread on the table then it might be better to hang in there and keep looking for something else, develope the web design yourself, keep the job, keep looking for something else, thats what I would do because it keeps your options while you still have some income from the job. But then its your call. Another thing is, if this company is asking people to walk,is it going down anyway, thats another factor. | |
| Supertech 2003-11-14, 3:56 pm |
| Take the money and run!
You might not get the buyout offer next time. | |
| curiousgeorge 2003-11-15, 1:41 am |
| Take the money.
I've worked for three companies in that same situation (lucky me  ). The first offer is always the best. Two months from now will be layoffs with bad severence pay. Four months from now will be layoffs with no severence pay. | |
| azimuth40 2003-11-15, 1:28 pm |
| Money and medical? Take the money and go. The next round will be 3 months and no medical. The last round will be one month plus one week per year of service over a high number or vesting year requirements..
I have seen this a dozen times since the 80's during the great dinosaur matings and then the minicomputer matings and the aerospace downsizing. and it always goes this way. The last batch of employees will get extra money to train their replacements if the overseas switchover is not going well. However in the end your job is toast anyway.
There are no tea leaves to read here, just textbook MBA stuff. Even IBM eventually started following that model. Pack your bags, update your resume and post AMF on your door. | |
| kmb40 2003-11-26, 10:13 am |
| I have decided not to take the buyout. I am now up for a promotion to one of the vacated positions within my group. There are also several outside of my group. As far as rounds of buyouts go, azimuth40, I totally agree with you. However my company has gone against the grain and made ever buyout increasingly better. This will be the 6th one in 8 years that ive seen and is by far the best. So far, all of the buyouts have catered to employees who are close to or beyond the years required to retire. 7% Pension increases, 2 years added to total years, etc. So for now I'll continue to school at the companies expence and hope to get one of the now vacant positions. For now ill live to work another day, until the next labor reduction:.)Thanks for all of your comments. | |
| azimuth40 2003-11-26, 5:39 pm |
| Good luck, I truly hope it works well for you. Just remember that if they keep increasing everyone will stay hoping the next round will be a better deal. Management will then have to reverse that trend to scare people into not staying. Watch for that switch. If the next offer is lower then it is time to hit the door. |
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