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Welcome Back Kobe!
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| Tech Ranger 2003-10-24, 9:12 am |
| It is great to see that Kobe is back on the basketball court. He played in an exhibition game and scored 15 points. He was greeted with tremendous friendship, warmth, and support. I am confident that he will get through this time in his life and will emerge a stronger and wiser person. Many of us face difficulties in our lives and we don't have millions of people to help support us. Kobe is very fortunate to have so many friends. | |
| Papiya 2003-10-24, 11:28 am |
| Is there anyone who actually thinks he is guilty? I think they are just after his money. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-24, 12:23 pm |
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Originally posted by Papiya
Is there anyone who actually thinks he is guilty? I think they are just after his money.
I proudly wear my "Free Kobe" shirt! | |
| enforcer 2003-10-24, 12:54 pm |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
I proudly wear my "Free Kobe" shirt!
Cheapskate!
why couldn't you pay for yours like everybody else.  | |
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| Tech Ranger 2003-10-24, 8:06 pm |
| In the 8 page decision handed down by the judge who bound Kobe over for trial, the message was clear: On the basis of the law as it is stricly interpreted, the prosecution met its burden, which is minimal. However the case is flawed and weak.
It is clear to any impartial observer that the chances of convincing 12 people beyond a reasonable doubt that Kobe commited this crime is virtually nil. This amounts, therefore, to malicious prosecution. I hope Kobe goes after her and her prosecutorial buddies in civil court after the trial and makes these people pay. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-24, 8:40 pm |
| Go KOBE!
Sue her asre! | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-24, 9:02 pm |
| The law is so damned unjust and one-sided. This woman hides behind some stupid rape shield law. She stays anonymous. Her reputation is supposedly beyond reach in the courtroom. Her life is protected. Meanwhile she gets to trash this man. She gets to destroy his reputation. What the Hec is so damned sacrosanct about her. What is with this asymmetrical application of the law. The man is fair bait. The woman is shielded. When Kobe is aquitted, where does he go to get his reputation back. Come out from your hiding place, you cowardly wimp!! If you think you can prove that Kobe has done something bad, have the copurage of your convictions. Step out into the sunlight and let us hear what you have to say. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-24, 9:12 pm |
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Originally posted by Tech Ranger
The law is so damned unjust and one-sided. This woman hides behind some stupid rape shield law. She stays anonymous. Her reputation is supposedly beyond reach in the courtroom. Her life is protected. Meanwhile she gets to trash this man. She gets to destroy his reputation. What the Hec is so damned sacrosanct about her. What is with this asymmetrical application of the law. The man is fair bait. The woman is shielded. When Kobe is aquitted, where does he go to get his reputation back. Come out from your hiding place, you cowardly wimp!! If you think you can prove that Kobe has done something bad, have the copurage of your convictions. Step out into the sunlight and let us hear what you have to say.
'Tis true. All a woman has to do is cry wolf about rape and you are assumed guilty. | |
| ChrisDfer 2003-10-24, 9:27 pm |
| Does it really matter if he did it or not? He should go to prison either way. If you are accused then that should be all it takes. | |
| ChrisDfer 2003-10-24, 9:30 pm |
| Why even have a trial? I don't think he should go to jail either way. Even if he did he should be allowed to do stuff like that. It is right as a man. I wear my shirt that says "Free Kobe Either Way" Also that little whore should be locked up even if she was raped by him. She asked for it anyways by being a women. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-24, 9:36 pm |
| When is that medication supposed to kick in? | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-24, 9:40 pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisDfer
Does it really matter if he did it or not? He should go to prison either way. If you are accused then that should be all it takes.
ChrisDfer, enforcer, bearing, thecomones and mikop all gang raped my asre.  | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-24, 9:43 pm |
| And how did you feel about that? | |
| ChrisDfer 2003-10-24, 9:58 pm |
| He said it reminded him of Duke. I didn't get it either. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-24, 10:58 pm |
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Originally posted by ChrisDfer
He said it reminded him of Duke. I didn't get it either.
I don't like their team. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-10-25, 11:03 pm |
| I wasn't in the room when the act occured.
I don't know either of them personally.
I don't have all of the facts.
The prosecution will try to make her out to be fairly innocent regardless of how she really is.
The defense will try to smear her like the feces on a WalMart bathroom wall, regardless of how she really is.
The defense makes and spends more money and is less bound by ethics than the prosecution.
With all of that said, I'll let the court decide whether he raped her or not.
In the meantime, I am watching the interesting part of this whole thing, which is to see what the judge ends up doing to Kobe's lawyer if she keeps up her behavior.
Cheers,
TB | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-26, 1:26 am |
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Originally posted by Tarzanboy
I wasn't in the room when the act occured.
I don't know either of them personally.
I don't have all of the facts.
The prosecution will try to make her out to be fairly innocent regardless of how she really is.
The defense will try to smear her like the feces on a WalMart bathroom wall, regardless of how she really is.
The defense makes and spends more money and is less bound by ethics than the prosecution.
With all of that said, I'll let the court decide whether he raped her or not.
In the meantime, I am watching the interesting part of this whole thing, which is to see what the judge ends up doing to Kobe's lawyer if she keeps up her behavior.
Cheers,
TB
She has given me absolutely no reason to give her the benefit of any doubt. She is hiding behind a tree and tarnishing a man's image. I have heard everything I need to hear. I have known Kobe for years as a public figure. I don't even know who she is. Why do I owe her anything? | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-26, 4:01 am |
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Originally posted by Tech Ranger
She has given me absolutely no reason to give her the benefit of any doubt. She is hiding behind a tree and tarnishing a man's image. I have heard everything I need to hear. I have known Kobe for years as a public figure. I don't even know who she is. Why do I owe her anything?
I agree. I'm not even a Lakers fan and I back Kobe.
If this b1tch would show her figgin' face and speak to the public without a mouth piece maybe I would think differently. Until then, as long as she hides I don't believe a word she says. | |
| Flyerzfan 2003-10-26, 9:38 am |
| While I share most of the sentiments expressed here (i.e. the one-sidedness of the procedure when it comes to rape), the bottom line is that Bryant put himself in this vulnerable position by having sex (consensual or otherwise) with this woman. Now I am not suggesting that it justifies a false accusation against him (if it is indeed a false accusation) but a superstar pro athlete has to be aware that there are groupies who will take advantage of opportunities such as this (no witnesses, he said/she said)to bring down a high profile star such as Bryant. One of the things that plays into the favor of the defendant is the fact that she took it to the prosecutorial level as opposed to simply accepting a settlement to make it go away. I say this because once charges are filed it is out of the hands of the accuser and the accused. They can have no contact with each other, and it would be illegal for one side to offer a large settlement to drop the charges, so the theory that the accuser is just "holding out" for a larger settlement is a weak one. It is past the point of no return now, and in the hands of the D.A. The only way a settlement can be obtained would be through a civil suit at the conclusion of the criminal trial. In any event, hopefully other athletes and entertainers are taking a lesson from this and making "adjustments" to their behavior on the road when it comes to groupies. No piece of pu$$y is worth what it is going to end up costing Bryant in legal fees and diamond rings to appease his wife. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-26, 9:43 am |
| I agree that Kobe is very much guilty of various transgressions. There are many lessons to be learned. But if you park at a hydrant, the penalty shouldn't be forfeiture of your car. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-10-26, 5:35 pm |
| Yeah, the nerve of her, hiding.
It's not like she's had any death threats...
Or the prosecutors are receiving death threats...
Or even the defense attorney reportedly receiving death threats...
The judge made the decision that she did not have to testify at the hearing. The District Attorney did not want her to. The accuser doesn't decide anything, except whether she wants to keep her story or change it.
As far as whether Kobe is an upstanding citizen incapable of such an act, take a look around at some of the criminal population some time. If a priest or a school teacher can rape someone, do you seriously think a professional athlete is above it because they have multimillion dollar contracts to sell stuff?
Cheers,
TB | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-26, 5:44 pm |
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Originally posted by Tarzanboy
Yeah, the nerve of her, hiding.
It's not like she's had any death threats...
Or the prosecutors are receiving death threats...
Or even the defense attorney reportedly receiving death threats...
The judge made the decision that she did not have to testify at the hearing. The District Attorney did not want her to. The accuser doesn't decide anything, except whether she wants to keep her story or change it.
As far as whether Kobe is an upstanding citizen incapable of such an act, take a look around at some of the criminal population some time. If a priest or a school teacher can rape someone, do you seriously think a professional athlete is above it because they have multimillion dollar contracts to sell stuff?
Cheers,
TB
That's the price you pay when you accuse someone like Kobe. It's not like he's the schmuck from down the block. | |
| Tech Ranger 2003-10-26, 6:17 pm |
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Originally posted by Tarzanboy
Yeah, the nerve of her, hiding.
It's not like she's had any death threats...
Or the prosecutors are receiving death threats...
Or even the defense attorney reportedly receiving death threats...
The judge made the decision that she did not have to testify at the hearing. The District Attorney did not want her to. The accuser doesn't decide anything, except whether she wants to keep her story or change it.
As far as whether Kobe is an upstanding citizen incapable of such an act, take a look around at some of the criminal population some time. If a priest or a school teacher can rape someone, do you seriously think a professional athlete is above it because they have multimillion dollar contracts to sell stuff?
Cheers,
TB
The fact that you can make such a statement proves that she has already had a devastating impact upon his reputation even though he has been convicted of absolutely nothing. Why is his reutation up for grabs and hers is sacrosanct. You know I am really pissed that I am saying "Hers". Who the hec is SHE? This thing is utterly ridiculous. This is as if my friends and family were to receive an anonymous letter saying that I had raped someone. Stop insulting our intelligence. I say to HER, step forward or shut your damned mouth.
Oh, by the way, before you concoct a story the next time, clean your panties. | |
| hscott63 2003-10-27, 12:29 am |
| Panties with old semen stains that smells fishy to me. | |
| DesertDog 2003-10-27, 10:43 am |
| How can so many people be so sure of his guilt/innocence based on only the information leaked to the press? From that info I see he could well be guilty or not and she is definitely a basket case but that shouldn't keep her from justice. My biggest issue is the constant special handling of these overpaid babies, if you or I were charged of anything like this guilty or not nobody would be trying to work the court case around our schedules. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-27, 11:50 am |
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Originally posted by DesertDog
How can so many people be so sure of his guilt/innocence based on only the information leaked to the press? From that info I see he could well be guilty or not and she is definitely a basket case but that shouldn't keep her from justice. My biggest issue is the constant special handling of these overpaid babies, if you or I were charged of anything like this guilty or not nobody would be trying to work the court case around our schedules.
My whole pet peeve with this case is that for some reason whenever something of this nature happens everyone is always guily until proven innocent when it should be the other way around. | |
| hscott63 2003-10-27, 1:47 pm |
| Two wrongs don't make it right. | |
| Tarzanboy 2003-10-27, 4:46 pm |
| If the issue is based solely on the smearing of the image, your issue is with the media rather than the woman making the accusations.
Cheers,
TB | |
| mindmesh 2003-10-27, 7:22 pm |
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Originally posted by Tarzanboy
If the issue is based solely on the smearing of the image, your issue is with the media rather than the woman making the accusations.
Cheers,
TB
Disagree, she can come out and tell her story anytime she wants. She choses not too. That is her choice.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't know if he did it or not and if he did I hope he fries, but at the same time if he didn't, his reputation is tarnished.
This happens in all aspects of law though, not just rape. Assault/restraining, child custody, and child support. The man always get the short end of the stick. Write your congressman if this bothers you, otherwise it won't change. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-27, 7:28 pm |
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Originally posted by mindmesh
The man always get the short end of the stick. Write your congressman if this bothers you, otherwise it won't change.
Well said! | |
| HOOLIGAN 2003-10-27, 9:56 pm |
| At the end of the day he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and im sure Kobe and many other stars are at it all the time.
And it was eventualy going to happen sonner or later. Not to say he deserved what he got, but he was certainly asking for it.
What a role model  | |
| enforcer 2003-10-28, 4:56 am |
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Originally posted by hscott63
Two wrongs don't make it right.
Mr Wong and Mrs Wong were going to redecorate their living room, Mr Wong wanted it red, whereas Mrs Wong wanted it blue, therefore proving . . . . .
Two wongs don't make it white. | |
| WPFossil 2003-10-28, 6:16 am |
| Who's Kobe?
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| ruscorp 2003-10-28, 11:13 am |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Mr Wong and Mrs Wong were going to redecorate their living room, Mr Wong wanted it red, whereas Mrs Wong wanted it blue, therefore proving . . . . .
Two wongs don't make it white.
I'm going to protest that last remark they enforcer. Why would Mr Wong want the room red? | |
| enforcer 2003-10-28, 11:31 am |
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Originally posted by ruscorp
I'm going to protest that last remark they enforcer. Why would Mr Wong want the room red?
Mr Wong supports Liverpool, Mrs Wong supports Everton and bearing supports Leeds United. | |
| ruscorp 2003-10-28, 12:40 pm |
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Originally posted by enforcer
Mr Wong supports Liverpool, Mrs Wong supports Everton and bearing supports Leeds United.
Soccer. |
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