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AMDWiZARD

2002-09-11, 10:57 pm

If you are better than me, you wont be for long.
I will do anything it takes to beat you.
I will not eat your children like Mike Tyson, but I will eat your lunch.
I will walk through challenging issues rather than say it cannot be done.
There is no such thing as it doesnt work.
Failure is not an option.
I will do anything possible that is good to maintain my position.
My spot cannot be rocked, the only spot getting rocked will be yours.
Some people say you can never know everything about computers, but I will die learning.
Ignorance is your first weakness.
Overconfidence is your second.
Try not, DO or DO NOT, there is no try.
The day you become obsolete is the day your job does.
Welcome to my world - hop in, fasten your belts, and get ready for the ride of your life.
ruscorp

2002-09-11, 11:05 pm

quote:
Originally posted by AMDWiZARD
If you are better than me, you wont be for long.
I will do anything it takes to beat you.
I will not eat your children like Mike Tyson, but I will eat your lunch.
I will walk through challenging issues rather than say it cannot be done.
There is no such thing as it doesnt work.
Failure is not an option.
I will do anything possible that is good to maintain my position.
My spot cannot be rocked, the only spot getting rocked will be yours.
Some people say you can never know everything about computers, but I will die learning.
Ignorance is your first weakness.
Overconfidence is your second.
Try not, DO or DO NOT, there is no try.
The day you become obsolete is the day your job does.
Welcome to my world - hop in, fasten your belts, and get ready for the ride of your life.



Can I have fries with that?
Sexy Lexy

2002-09-12, 4:10 am

And the point to this inane ranting?
iggy4270

2002-09-12, 4:12 am

quote:
originally posted by AMDWIZARD: If you are better than me, you wont be for long.
I take it you only have full length mirrors in your house.
DemiGod

2002-09-12, 6:56 am

So what's your stage name for the WWF??
eric1971

2002-09-12, 9:17 am

quote:
Originally posted by AMDWiZARD

Ignorance is your first weakness.
Overconfidence is your second.



Take some of your own advice.
Pavlov

2002-09-12, 9:19 am

Just sounds to me like the WIZARD is pumping himself up for that final elusive MCSE exam this week! Go get it AMDWIZARD!

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/bounce/bluegrab.gif
jackiechan

2002-09-12, 9:57 am

Those thoughts will lead you to insanity.
Chas1

2002-09-12, 10:21 am

quote:
Those thoughts will lead you to insanity.
I think they already have!
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-12, 12:52 pm

Insane rants stem from the insane...

Thanks for the props Pavlov!
Perhaps this "insane" rant was due to my current mood yesterday
Im ready for MCSE... one year nonstop studying on the line. Im crazy guys... but you already knew that.

Remember, Im awake in the night and I sleep in a coffin during the day.
gr33nd4yg1rl

2002-09-12, 2:57 pm

oh my
smite

2002-09-12, 3:09 pm

All Props wizard..
Good luck.....
now .... get away from that mirror
Teck Shark

2002-09-12, 3:29 pm

quote:

but I will eat your lunch.


That's not very nice!!!
azimuth40

2002-09-12, 6:18 pm

quote:
Originally posted by Teck Shark
quote:
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but I will eat your lunch.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


That's not very nice!!!



Naw just use one upmanship. Lay out the dogs breakfast and advertize it as lunch. While he is heaving, deftly waltz on by while you whisper; "sorry about that but the only easy day was yesterday and I got there first".
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-12, 6:55 pm

LOL
Deja-vue

2002-09-12, 7:30 pm

WELCOME TO CORPORATE AMERICA !

where humanity does not count, where decent behavior is measured as a weakness,you always got to move on, faster, better,it does not matter, what is in your heart or mind, it's about you looking good and how much $$$ you make.

The Corporate world sucks.


sorry, couldn't resist, AMDWIZARD's story sounds just too familiar to me.
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-12, 9:00 pm

I want to make something clear, money is nowhere included in that list. I am by nature a fierce competitor, and so Im in the right field. But do not make me out to be some heartless bastard who just wants money.

MONEY isnt everything. Unfortunately, its needed to survive in today's world. Its the will to succeed that drives me. Its where you want to go in life that makes you do the things you do.

Most people whose goals are getting nowhere in life are stuck some place smoking pot and doing drugs.

Most 20 year olds are doing nothing. Id rather be doing something than nothing.



AMDWiZARD
thecomeons

2002-09-13, 3:02 am

it's good to know the answers to every possible question you could be asked. is it impossible?
Teck Shark

2002-09-13, 3:55 pm

I admire anyone with determination, desire, & the will to succeed! That's what got me where I am at my age! But keep in mind that it's a lot easier to "talk the talk" than it is to actually "walk the walk!" I for one love to walk, run for that matter, so I let others talk while I walk! If you smell what I'm cooking...

So good luck to you AMDWiZARD & to all in your IT endeavors.
darthw

2002-09-14, 8:47 am

Keep it up AMDWizard. I didn't take your initial "rant" as braggadocio or a "high-five to cruel, corporate culture", rather I think it was thumbing your nose at the some of the fools I've worked with over the years. All of you have worked for the same:

quote:
If you are better than me, you wont be for long.


- The skilled tech, sometimes cocky, who knows a lot and provides a focus for competition.

quote:
I will walk through challenging issues rather than say it cannot be done.


- Aah, the tech who answers a user's legitimate request with "it cannot be done", but "it" can be. Rather, the tech is too bloody lazy to try to learn how, or just an idiot. Sure sometimes it "doesn't work" due to software/hardware, constraints, or just corporate policy, but most of the time I've heard a tech give this answer it has been due to the tech's failings.



quote:
I will do anything possible that is good to maintain my position.


- Thankfully AMDWizard you will often find it's not as difficult to maintain your position if you have the drive to stay educated and apply your skills. Most of the techs I've worked with spend too much time avoiding learning and hard work - too little time dazzling the users - that it doesn't take much to look like a great tech/admin. I've always said the biggest reason I will continue to succeed in this biz is due to most techs' laziness (to learn or work, or both).

quote:
Ignorance is your first weakness. Overconfidence is your second.



- Now this tech is everywhere. (Although overconfidence may not be the best choice of word as we should all be careful of overconfidence - she is a harsh mistress. Perhaps "cockiness"?) The stupid idiot who will argue with you to the end because he/she only wants to save face, not admit that, like all of us, he/she can't possibly know it all.

quote:
The day you become obsolete is the day your job does.


- Right now I work with a couple "obsolete" techs. Our team lead has been in IT for about 7-8 years, and never built a home PC. For example, he called me the other day about which way to plug in an IDE cable. Nice guy, but he hasn't learned anything techie in years - spells O-B-S-E-L-E-T-E. This particularly irritates me when I read about how many techs willing to learn new technologies and be a fresh asset to our team are unemployed.


quote:
it's a lot easier to "talk the talk" than it is to actually "walk the walk!"


- And how Tech Shark. If I had a nickle for every lazy tech who keeps telling me "Well, I plan on studying for that cert, or taking that class, starting next month." And yet the intent never materializes into action (only rarely for legitimate reasons). Then, they have the nerve to negate what college, certs, or just class time can do for a tech's skills as my abilities grow right past their own.



quote:
Welcome to my world - hop in, fasten your belts, and get ready for the ride of your life.


I'll "ride shotgun" with you AMDWizard, just as long as we stop for potty breaks
azimuth40

2002-09-14, 10:33 am

quote:
Originally posted by darthw
I'll "ride shotgun" with you AMDWizard, just as long as we stop for potty breaks


O.K. darthw

I am happy it seems that more than just a few of us get it, and understands what it will take to stay at the top of your game. Money hasn't much to do with this other than being tangential. I never quite figured out that Corporate America thing, more like Corporate X where x equals the set of all world corporations. I am sure AMDWizard will do just fine. Glad you mentioned potty breaks, that buckboard does get rough at times, even when you ride shotgun.
Tech Ranger

2002-09-14, 8:08 pm

AMDWIZARD, I have told you countless times to wait until the meds wear off before posting. I apologize to everyone. I can't watch him 24 hours a day.
ruscorp

2002-09-14, 8:18 pm

LOL!
Freed177

2002-09-14, 11:46 pm

Gee,
Any acomplishment that I make I will give God the Glory. All things are possible through Him. I really do not need to worry about the all the mombo gombo garbage. I just give it to the Lord..... And He takes care of the rest.
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-15, 1:12 am

Id like to say thanks for those who have understood my post. Its as real as the business is. For those who understand what its all about- its good to know there are people like me outside with the same hunger.

AMDWiZARD

Oh yeah, you can ride shotgun, as long as its loaded and cocked. And as far as potty breaks, dont rush, but hurry!
TW2001

2002-09-15, 2:57 am

What part of the industry are you currently in? (curious)
MistyRing

2002-09-15, 10:42 am

Hmmmmmm....
namrak

2002-09-15, 12:12 pm

Motivation of which AMDWizard apparently has in abundance and its crucial to have in this industry if you aspire to reach your goals. Of course, this is assuming you have set a goal or two.

However, I feel there is a fine line between competition and outright backstabbing of associates and co-workers. But that is another story...
Sexy Lexy

2002-09-15, 7:37 pm

That "fat guy" who kept coughing during one of your tests which ultimately, resulted in you failing that test.

Is failure not an option for you?
Did he not rock your spot on that occasion?

Then of course the second failure.

Just a thought.
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-15, 8:41 pm

But did I give up? That is meant by not failing. Failure can be perceived in many ways. My definition of failure is when you say "I cant do it." Failure would have been me not wanting to take the Server+ again after I had failed it 3 times by 1 or 2 questions. But it was my will to succeed that made me take it again, and I passed it the fourth time. There was a big time span between my test taking.

Look man, I mean I aint got nothing personal against you, but so far it seems like your last three posts you have been trying to dogg me every chance you get. If you got a problem then bring it to the table. If not, then say so.

As for backstabbing co-workers goes, "I will do anything possible that is good to keep my position." Obviously backstabbing co-workers isnt on the list.

And lastly, Sexy Lexy, how about you sit an exam and I start coughing every 5 minutes. Maybe I'll start sighing every 10 minutes, and tapping my mouse after every additional 15 minutes. If you pass, you get props. If you dont, well you will understand what it means to throw away $125.

AMDWiZARD
Deja-vue

2002-09-15, 9:08 pm

AMDWIZARD, i checked out your Profile,checked out some of your Posts in the Past and now it is more clear to me why you bring these Statements.

First, out of about 72 Posts, that you contributed, you always bragged on about you,you,you... how you did in this Test and how you failed that one.
You did Server+ four times?
216 several times?
224 several times?
What is it with your Obsession about "AMDWIZARD against the Beast", or "it has been achieved" or "Second attempt" or "this is the Day".....

.95% of you Posts are about you. You-You-You

Not a single Post about you helping someone with some Tech problems or contributing help to others.

Boy, i don't know if you live in a real World, but i know Guys without ANY Cert that will eat you alive.These Guys work on Advanced Servers,Clusters, Linux-Webservers and Firewalls and even work with Cisco-Hardware.
All your Certs and how fast you got them,does not impress me.
What do you do now?
Now that you got that big MCSE Cert?
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-15, 11:57 pm

Yo man, your attitude really sucks. I failed 216 twice, dont knock me for that. Basically when I say that stuff I want people to say why should I give up if I fail it once or twice or how many other times.

Sure you could find guys who could eat me alive in Linux (which im not willing to start a flame war over), advanced clusters, and Unix. Thus this is where experience comes in. I am 20 years old, and I have still have a ways to go, no doubt. Its comments like yours that serve to destroy people's motivation and self esteem. You almost make it seem like I have accomplished nothing, that's unacceptable. You have only served to fuel the fire within me.
I havent helped anyone's IT questions because I dont prowl the message boards. I came here for support, and people like Teck Shark and Pavlov actually gave me some. They said GO GET IT, and they were happy for me when I actually did. I did not give up,
and nor do I think ANYONE should. Things happen, you fail tests, it happens. Life is about making mistakes and learning from them. Nobody is perfect. NOBODY. How fast I got them? Im not trying to impress you or anyone else. I dont have to go into details but as a means to defend myself, I will. For almost one year which is close to 8,000 hours I have spent at least half studying. There used to be days I never got sleep, just learning and learning and learning. Practically ate, drank, and slept Windows 2000. I do alot of computer work for people because I work for myself, but if I wasnt working I was studying, there's enough people who could attest for that. Everyone will agree it all boils down to experience, can you handle the job? You make it sound like me failing tests shouldn't happen. Lastly, I would get your facts straight. I failed 224 once by three questions. Everytime I have failed a test, I have failed by a small margin, not a huge one. Next, if you read the Server+ forum, which oh great one you probably havent, you will see that the failure is rate is DAMN HIGH! Its not a stroll in the park. Every question carries three good possible answers. So, before another ignoranous starts the next post, here's my track.

70-210 - no failure
70-215 - no failure
70-216 - failed twice (common)
70-217 - no failure
70-218 - failed once
70-219 - failed once (599 needed 613)
70-224 - failed once (711 needed 755)

Comptia A+ - no failure
Comptia Network+ no failure
Comptia Server+ - failed three times
(65,70,73%)

How do you figure I failed 70-224 "SERVERAL TIMES"? I've only taken it twice!

And if Im not mistaken, if you use decimals, you usually drop the precent sign. .95%? seems quite low... i think you meant 95%...
Lastly, you dont know me personally, so you are just assuming these guys with no cert would eat me alive... in some places they sure would, in others they would find themselves completely owned. But as everyday passes, I learn more. my IT career will be a long one. Oh and when I do get that $50k job, its not because my MCSE 2K is more special than yours is, its because I wont stop until I get it.

Figures an old 40 year old man would try to hold us young guys down, then you wonder why us comin up give you no respect. That's a hater defined man. 5 years from now lets see where we are.

AMDWiZARD
Deja-vue

2002-09-16, 12:26 am

I am not disrespectin you, i am disrespecting you.(talking about typo's)
English is my second language, sorry about some mistakes i make here...

I sure hope that i have not "destroyed" Peoples motivation,however, members that rattle on about:
"I will do anything it takes to beat you."
and
"My spot cannot be rocked, the only spot getting rocked will be yours"
or
"If you are better than me, you wont be for long."

And now you state that nobody is perfect.
It seemed to me with your Opening Statement you declared yourself some kind of MCSE-God.
You are not.
Next time you feel perfect, try walking on Water.
I have failed the 215 once myself-no big Deal.But i swore to myself i will never fail another one.
And now you rattle on how close you were so many times and how many of them you you you.
And, all of a Sudden, your MCSE 2K is more special than mine?
What is that all about?
I would never hold younger People down, i think i have helped Guys like Netchild (who's younger than you and has a great future)or ruscorp or...countless others reaching their Goal.This is what the Board is to me.Helping others.
I have read every single post you made since you came to Examnotes and it is all about you.When will you start thinking about others?
azimuth40

2002-09-16, 1:29 am

Uh Deja is this necessary? It seems to me that you went off on a tangent like this a few months ago. Having a bad week are we? It is apparent that several of us have a different viewpoint on this, and are truly happy for AMDWizards accomplishment.

Is this a battle that you really need to fight and for what purpose? I guess because I teach young people I view their take on their successes in an entirely different light. Life is still and uphill battle for them with not as much time to look sideways.

What is a good magic count of how many people one should help before posting a world look at me I passed thank you for all that helped me? Maybe your view should be in the forum rules since I see so many post "I passed" messages. Fortunately far more people provide congratulations than brickbats.

He's twenty, there is time down the road to become bitter and look for the half empty glass. You certainly are starting to look bitter to this reader. I have to wonder about the motivation of someone that would review 72 messages looking for flame bait. You are welcome to start on mine at your convenience; I am more grizzled than you and past the bitter stage of life. The glass contains what the glass contains and should be savored, so do your worst.

I defended you the last time that you got crossways with some of the members (the infamous should I leave post). I don't believe anyone should have to leave (spammers excluded). You are really putting me on a bummer this time but life goes on and my shocks are fewer.
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-16, 1:30 am

Deja, PLEASE READ MY REPLY BEFORE REPLYING! You are turning this post into a flame war, which it never intended to be in the first place. Perhaps you should scroll a few posts back and you will see where someone ACTUALLY got the message of my post. Next, so you swore to never fail another test, glad you didnt if you havent.

Did I say my MCSE 2K was more special than yours? No. Did I ever portray myself as some sort of god? NO. You've read every single one of my posts? Im completely flattered, Im glad someone has that much time on their hands.

And speaking about being happy for others, you have been extremely negative to me since I got the MCSE, and on the fact as if you have read EVERY single one of my posts, its amazing to me why you havent complained SINCE NOW. Dude dont hate. And whoever broke down my comments and analyzed them a few posts back, you were correct. You grasped the meaning of this post. That is where this should have ended. But see you take someone who doesnt understand the meaning of competitiveness, and suddenly the whole post gets twisted. Thank you Azimuth for your defense.

Oh, and the fact that I know Im not perfect, is why I havent tried walking on water.

AMDWiZARD
2lazybutsmart

2002-09-16, 2:04 am

Guys, Deja and AMDWiZARD, please bring this to a complete stop. This is totaly useless.

I've taken part of threads of "HELL!!". and they've proven to be completely useless and barren at the ending. The two of you will just hate each other more with every other reply.

AMDWizard: I'm glad he got his MCSE 2K. Congrats.

Deja_Vue: you've done very well in your previous posts, let this not spoil it all.

Please guys... let's start thinking BIG.

2lazybutsmart.
NetChild1985

2002-09-16, 3:01 am

Guys, listen to 2lazybutsmart, maybe he's lazy, but he's smart and I agree with him. These posts are useless. If you have surplus energy, this forum is not the place to use it up. Let's all be nice and help each other, not conversely!

Deja, you really help other members and I think you deserve to be a (Co)Moderator.
Keep up the good work man!
Deja-vue

2002-09-16, 8:45 am

I must agree with you Guys, i am not interested in starting a new flame-war, this is why i avoided the General Discussion in the past Month altogether.
I just had something against this Attitude, thats all.
Sorry if you Guys all feel attacked, was not my Intention.
But i still have the right to post my Opinion.
Lets just all move on, there's more important Things to do...
Tech Ranger

2002-09-16, 8:59 am

I disagree with these guys. I think that the 2 of you should meet someplace and only one should leave. If techs are not willing to give their lives for their IT principles, then our hope for a rebound of Intel and Cisco will vanish into the wind and the braindumpers will take over the country and Mike Meyers will write his A+ 5th Edition.
thecomeons

2002-09-16, 9:04 am

the original post in the thread was just a guy trying to build a positive mental attitude. turned out he was psyching himself up for an exam, but i thought he was just psyching himself up for a day's work.
enforcer

2002-09-16, 9:07 am

things that make you go mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

time for meditation, to chill to relax.

oh by the way AMDwizard you still haven't sorted out the frame in your avatar
TW2001

2002-09-16, 10:02 am

Its quite easy to spot inferiority and insecurity..it always comes with a big front of arrogance and ego.

Thanks to Deja for piercing the transparency. Its not easy to go against the flow.

Maybe that picture hit you in the head Mr Wizard.

Whatever
AMDWiZARD

2002-09-16, 10:47 am

You guys are absolutely rediculous, not only that, quite hilarious. Its pretty funny to see how people perceive your thinking isnt it? Isnt funny how people can purely take things out of context, twist them, and turn them against you? Of course no one could know 100% what exactly I was talking about when I started this post. Some people understood, some people blew it way out of context. It was minorly a way to pump myself up. It was the mentality you need to survive on the IT field. The kind of thinking that I have when Im on the field. If you dont make efforts to change or become better, then you will fade away. Its a never stopping industry, it can be pretty unforgiving too.

Everything with me comes from self motivation, perhaps its my dreams that push me to not give up.

And that's the reason why I said My IT mentality, because that's not everyone's mentality on IT is it? This absolutely has nothing to do with certifications per say.

Its easy to go against the flow when you dont understand what the whole post is about.
This post is ended, and close this whole thing. Never did I imagine it could get out of control.. but it did. Post Closed.
Tech Ranger

2002-09-16, 11:06 am

Freak has his own web site business which provides assistance to those who are studying for certification exams. Freak has a ton of certs himself. He has 2 masters degrees. He has taught at MIT. Yet, there is not an ounce of arrogance in that man. Dave doesn't have to tell us how good he is. We see that and we appreciate that. He helps us whenever possible. Humility is a virtue. It is a very important virtue. If you have talent and value, others will note that. They will compliment you and reward you. If you think that your colleagues are going to accept with open arms your maniacal rantings as to how damned good you are, you are deluding yourself. Now, get off your high horse and join the club of struggling and ambitious techs.
Sexy Lexy

2002-09-16, 11:10 am

Tech Ranger, I couldn't agree more.
iggy4270

2002-09-19, 1:06 am

Enough is enough. I myself was one of the first to throw a dig at AMD when I first read his post, but after reading a few posts afterward I realized what he was trying to accomplish. Believe me I for one think that vanity and egoism are true forms of ignorance and further believe that no man is better than any other man in this world, God created us all equal. As I stated in a previous post, it is easy to take the written word out of context and that is what I think has happened with AMD's post. Maybe he did not choose his words wisely, and I think he realizes that and has bent over backwards to some people trying to explain what he mmeant. So I think in all fairness why don't we let this thread fade away, forgive and forget, and get back to the business of helping and supporting each other. Can't we all just get along
enforcer

2002-09-19, 3:31 am

well if you hadn't just replied to this thread, it would gradually of gone down the forum and eventually faded off into the abyss, now however it's gone right to the top, people who have contributed have been notified, and it is now in everyone's face again.


ooooops! I just done the same, Sorry
Tech Ranger

2002-09-19, 6:45 am

Iggy, all was forgotten until you had the brilliant idea of reviving this thread. Now some guys are going to come in here and start talking about soccer.
enforcer

2002-09-19, 7:26 am

Tech, you've got us all wrong, we don't go into threads and hijack for our own purpose and bring soccer into it.




but know that you've mentioned it.


DOES ANYONE KNOW THE SCORE?
gr33nd4yg1rl

2002-09-19, 9:43 am

quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
Iggy, all was forgotten until you had the brilliant idea of reviving this thread. Now some guys are going to come in here and start talking about soccer.


LOL!!!


AMDWiZARD: i really admire your dedication towards I.T. you are unique as i haven't come across many members of this forum who have as much focus and determination as you. you definitely deserve your hard earned certs and a successful career in I.T.!!
DemiGod

2002-09-19, 12:50 pm

quote:
Originally posted by gr33nd4yg1rl

LOL!!!

AMDWiZARD: i really admire your dedication towards I.T. you are unique as i haven't come across many members of this forum who have as much focus and determination as you. you definitely deserve your hard earned certs and a successful career in I.T.!!



Ok how do we know how much focus and determination he has?? You can't tell that from this ridiculous thread. he's just talking himself up. Anything wrong with that? Well no - but AMDWIZARD should be able to take the heat if he's going to boast!!!

Put up or shut up!!!

iggy4270

2002-09-19, 11:02 pm

quote:
Posted by Tech Ranger - Iggy, all was forgotten until you had the brilliant idea of reviving this thread. Now some guys are going to come in here and start talking about soccer.
Damn it Ranger you've caught onto my sinister plan.
2lazybutsmart

2002-09-20, 1:36 am

quote:
Originally posted by DemiGod


Ok how do we know how much focus and determination he has?? You can't tell that from this ridiculous thread. he's just talking himself up. Anything wrong with that? Well no - but AMDWIZARD should be able to take the heat if he's going to boast!!!

Put up or shut up!!!




whoa!, why? is that just because you don't have an MCSE? i hope not?

never use you action (primary) brain and limbic (feeling) brain together without the thought brain. You always have to wrap 'em up with the higher neocortex (thought) brain. If a person is driven by actions, then he's a reptile. If a person is driven my feelings and emotions only, then he is a mammelian (animal). and finally, if a person uses his higher thought brain, that only humans have, then he is a human.

so beware.
enforcer

2002-09-20, 3:23 am

this is something that has puzzled me before.

How do we know how hard (or not) each person has studied for an exam?

If we have actually met the person and spent time with them studying, then we can see how hard they have worked.

But it is very hard to see from just the forum how much studying they do, how hard they study and what they have to give up to study.

hey we can't even be sure of their sex, age or even whether the certifications they list are correct.

therefore to people who UP another person and say they know how hard some one has studied and it's all well deserved, think do you really know how hard this person has studied.

by all means encourage people, but be aware, not all you see is what it seems.



Disclaimer : This is not aimed at anyone in particular, just a general observation. If you are totally genuine which i'm sure you all are, then the above is just a warning for life outside this forum. However if any of the above applies, think about it.
Tech Ranger

2002-09-20, 6:15 am

Enforcer, is that an implied confession.
enforcer

2002-09-20, 8:24 am

quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
Enforcer, is that an implied confession.


Implied confession of what, of that i don't work 24/7 on my studies, then yes. of that i don't study hard, well that would be up to someone else to decide on how hard i study.

The above is mainly due to every time someone mentions their studies, and how hard they have worked, people who only know them as a 'handle' and by what they have said on this forum big them up. It puzzles me.

i'm just trying to make people think.
DemiGod

2002-09-20, 8:41 am

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
this is something that has puzzled me before.

How do we know how hard (or not) each person has studied for an exam?

If we have actually met the person and spent time with them studying, then we can see how hard they have worked.

But it is very hard to see from just the forum how much studying they do, how hard they study and what they have to give up to study.

hey we can't even be sure of their sex, age or even whether the certifications they list are correct.

therefore to people who UP another person and say they know how hard some one has studied and it's all well deserved, think do you really know how hard this person has studied.

by all means encourage people, but be aware, not all you see is what it seems.



Disclaimer : This is not aimed at anyone in particular, just a general observation. If you are totally genuine which i'm sure you all are, then the above is just a warning for life outside this forum. However if any of the above applies, think about it.



Enforcer,
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm glad someone understands my point of view.

enforcer

2002-09-20, 8:59 am

It was your original post that, stirred me up at first and then when someone decided to criticise and call you jealous because you didn't have an MCSE, i decided to post.

thanks for your original stance on the subject
iggy4270

2002-09-20, 10:06 am

quote:
Posted by Enforcer - hey we can't even be sure of their sex, age or even whether the certifications they list are correct

Kevin _____. Comptia A+ # COMP10667334. Validation Date August 23, 2002.

Will it come to this.
enforcer

2002-09-20, 10:17 am

and that proves what?
DemiGod

2002-09-20, 11:01 am

quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
It was your original post that, stirred me up at first and then when someone decided to criticise and call you jealous because you didn't have an MCSE, i decided to post.

thanks for your original stance on the subject



iggy4270

2002-09-20, 11:13 am

quote:
Posted by enforcer - and that proves what
I don't know, you tell me. That was just one possible answer to your post. If you read the qoute that I took from your post you might remember what you posted. Were you not making security suggestions for this forum.
enforcer

2002-09-21, 8:41 am

no security suggestions whatsoever, just an observation that information provided by a member isn't necessary true and we have no way of proving it. the infomation you posted didn't mean diddy squat to me, there is no proof it is your real info or qualificatoion or what. the same applies to the inomation i have posted about myself, there is no way of you knowing for sure i have the MCSE qualification or not, you don't necessarily know what sex i am (you can guess 50/50 chance). and that is my point.
iggy4270

2002-09-27, 9:33 am

Enforcer I've been away for a week so I'm just catching up. Don't get me wrong I agree with you 100%. I guess I was just trying to present a hypothetical solution. A lot of times we can tell a member or guests knowledge by their posts. The rest we just trust in the fact that they are honorable and by that, we take their word for it. It does suck though when some joker takes our trust for granted.
enforcer

2002-09-27, 9:44 am

quote:
Originally posted by iggy4270
Enforcer I've been away for a week so I'm just catching up. Don't get me wrong I agree with you 100%. I guess I was just trying to present a hypothetical solution. A lot of times we can tell a member or guests knowledge by their posts. The rest we just trust in the fact that they are honorable and by that, we take their word for it. It does suck though when some joker takes our trust for granted.


nice to have you back iggy.

I'll take you at your word that you've been away for a week, and it hasn't just taken you a week to figure out what was going on in this thread.
iggy4270

2002-09-27, 10:02 am

quote:
Posted by enforcer - I'll take you at your word that you've been away for a week, and it hasn't just taken you a week to figure out what was going on in this thread.
LOL.... Thanks Man....
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