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| me? I dunno... 2002-07-26, 3:16 pm |
| I would think that somewhere in the first 500 or 1000 times that I closed out that bleeping intrusion that is always trying to suck info out of me, that somebody would have gotten the hint.
I registered already, I don't see where I should be hounded to the gates of hell by everybody and their goddamm dog, trying to get every last bit of possible information about me (for free) and then claiming some kind of proprietary ownership right over that information.
I have had data gathering institutions deny me access to various "neccessities" of modern life based on information about me that they would not share with me, because it was "their" property. Of course, they would share that information with me for a fee, as was their "right", as my personnal information, once in their hands, was "their property".
I enjoy this site, and learn a lot from visiting here, but if you think that your incessant demands for personnal information are going to yield results, forget it!
the internet is becoming a nest of nazi stooge style interogators, "you vill giff uss zee info, O, vee vill giff U za boot!"
If this site needs money that bad, I would prefer to pay a monthly membership fee, to having my personnal information bandied about like spare change.
Has anybody tried to rent a U-haul lately? They are building a massive database (for free) with the ever increasing capacity to locate anyone in north america, and they are doing it without anything even remotely resembling a Soul, without any responsibility to the people they are categorizing and "fingering", and without any regard for the dissemination of that information. They would quite happily sell it to anybody with the money, Al Smith or Al Kida, it makes no difference to them... once again, NO, I do NOT want to register! | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-26, 3:31 pm |
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I would think that somewhere in the first 500 or 1000 times that I closed out that bleeping intrusion that is always trying to suck info out of me, that somebody would have gotten the hint.
You mean the buggy way you get that message box because the cookie keeps dying off every 20 minutes on this site? What I really don't like about it is when I click on a link from an e-mail response it actually appears behind the browser window.
Most times I don't register on sites because I couldn't be bothered. Just be discriminative what you register for - if they try and use your personal data in a way that you don't think reasonable then it's probably not worth the bother anyway.
Can't help agreeing with you though. I wish there was like a single form register gateway. You fill the damn thing in once and you give permission whether that information can be obtained. Also, you get to legally retract it's use - effectively deregistration. | |
| thecomeons 2002-07-26, 3:41 pm |
| i'm kind of used to visiting sites with pop-ups. i am used to just clicking the "x" or "yes", sometimes i just know which is the correct button to press to make it go away and let me get on with what i want to do. sure i am a registered user and feel that there should be no need to have to validate my membership every so often. but i like this forum. other fourms i have visited and even registered for just don't excite me in the way that this fourm does. if the "registration prompt" encourages more guests to register here, then i encourage it. we are all here because we want one certification or another. the more help and support we can get the better: sometimes i need encouragement and sometimes i need to be told what to do, other times i need a kick up my hairy arse, and i am quite prepared to do the same for each and every one of you. call me a communist and blacklist me if u like, but we rely on each other in here. this forum was set up to be shared.
but yes. it can get on yer tits at times. | |
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| thecomeons 2002-07-26, 5:48 pm |
| i repeat my refrain: "but yes. it can get on yer tits at times." | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-26, 6:00 pm |
| lol. I am having a blast. That thing message box, session state, cookie whatever it is, is just plain messed. The funny 'x' in the top right corner?  I have bust something laughing. In any case it hurts. You're getting harassed by some goddamn intrusive software again? Go grab a beer and see what's on TV. | |
| thecomeons 2002-07-26, 6:07 pm |
| ... or failing that, there's always the books. tv is killing the art of conversation after all. | |
| Webmaster 2002-07-26, 6:36 pm |
| I don't know why some people still receiving this pop-up even after they have registered.
Maybe some browsers are set not to accept cookies.
The easiest fix was to logout and then to login from the home page at www.examnotes.net (not from the forum page)
Anyway, the summer membership drive is over, so no more registration pop-up untill X-MAS | |
| me? I dunno... 2002-07-26, 7:44 pm |
| I'll have my crow cold, thank you.
whatever this was about, I must have had my head buried in one of about a thousand or so pages of reader friendly text provided courtesy of MS Press. Oh well, I just happen to have a thousand more pages waiting... | |
| pissedoffsol 2002-07-31, 10:54 am |
| well, .Net From m$ is supposed to do just this-- create a passport that particpating sites use will give you that log-in for all those sites.
I too, have registered to hundreds, if not thousands of sites over the years. Half, if not more, i never go back to- but you have to register to even view a post about something that a friend linked you to. It does get annoying.
The only problem I see with .net/passport, is that well, other than the fact that it's m$ proprietary bullshit, the member sites I'm sure have to pay a fee to become a member. Small sites, free sites, sites that don't sell anything, yet offer a service, tech forum, or other site of the such, will probably never do that, simply for the cost facotr.
thoughts? | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-31, 1:12 pm |
| Good points. Interesting handle.
My thought about Microsoft passport is a simple one: as soon as you offer a similiar service by competing and price undercutting then the whole point of it is lost and you're back at square one. Participating sites would either subscribe to more than one such supplier of this service to ensure that a maximum of clients are covered and meet the overhead or forget all about it. I have to say I am a little mystified - has Microsoft introduced .NET for developers, or are they planning on writing all the applications too? You don't need .NET to offer a similiar service. Java web services have been around longer. In any case, you don't need these particular new technologies to produce this kind of thing. | |
| me? I dunno... 2002-07-31, 1:13 pm |
| To bad they don't allow editing of previous posts after a certain time [database requirements?]...oh well..., anyway, I think I'm in agreement with you. I don't know the exact particulars of the .net plan, and of course I could be wrong, but I have heard there are similarities to that brilliant digital type fiasco. Collaborative computing whether we like it or not? Is there any truth in these rumours? I don't think I would aggree to allow bill gates or anybody else to drive my car based on a presumed right to access, when I'm not using it, simply by virtue of the fact that I'm not using it.
If I was like most consumers, including computer owners, I would pay an ongoing fee for use, either a monthly payment for the car, or a monthly payment for ISP access. I would think that bandwidth that I pay for would rightfully be my property, to use or allow to lay dormant at my discretion.
Again, I could be all wrong about this, anybody care to enlighten me? | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-31, 1:37 pm |
| To get back to what I was originally saying, what I meant was client empowerment. The site requests registration information from you and you decide whether to give that information over or not. The data would be stored locally on your hard drive. I don't like the idea of some vast database store run by a private company, that data could always get hacked and you're going to have Microsoft constantly on at you whether they can give your information to this or that company - in other words they're also going to sell your information on top of offering the web service and irrespective of registration. Is that privacy? | |
| pissedoffsol 2002-07-31, 4:41 pm |
| your own computer can probably get hacked easier. question is, would a hacker find YOU over anyone else in the world. if its all in once place, it does make more sense, even if it is in a more secure area.
as for my S/N.. it goes way back... I'm not pissed... I'm a nice guy..but it just kinda stuck 
.Net is out- been out for a while. passport has pretty much an API like windows.. a certain set of guidelines to make it work, and it can be exapnded from there for development on your own sites. | |
| RichardJW 2002-07-31, 5:28 pm |
| Of course security is an issue for sensitive data. I see no reason why security and encryption should not be equally as good on your P/C. Mostly those forms you fill in are not secure because the information you are filling in isn't considered sensitive enough. The data that gets collected on those sites is also open to hacking. Let's face it, there are probably 1000's of companies that at least have some information on each and every one of us.
I don't think that security is the main issue here though. Do we want a private company holding and managing our data for us or do we want to hold it and manage it ourselves?
Maybe the data could be removable like a floppy disk instead of on the hard drive. When a request for information is made you plug in a card that contains the data to your P/C or mobile phone or whatever. The card issues an authentication request and then the data is sent with an encryption key. |
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