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| ruscorp 2002-12-15, 8:29 pm |
| IBM Thinkpad A20m: $1099
New 80 Gig HDD for laptop: $160
Knowing you are a damn moron for installing FreeBSD on a thinkpad: priceless | |
| gr33nd4yg1rl 2002-12-15, 8:50 pm |
| oops | |
| gr33nd4yg1rl 2002-12-15, 8:54 pm |
| did you actually do this? | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-15, 8:56 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by gr33nd4yg1rl
did you actually do this?
Several times before I figured out why it wouldn't boot. | |
| gr33nd4yg1rl 2002-12-15, 8:58 pm |
| yikes
ibm is a pain in the @ss | |
| thecomeons 2002-12-16, 2:52 am |
| but icbm is deadly. | |
| gr33nd4yg1rl 2002-12-16, 7:03 am |
| what's icbm? | |
| mindmesh 2002-12-16, 8:05 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by gr33nd4yg1rl
what's icbm?
Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile | |
| thecomeons 2002-12-16, 8:32 am |
| a real pain in the arse  | |
| enforcer 2002-12-16, 9:49 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile
is that anything like the Lincoln Continental? | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-16, 10:22 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile
Some violent people in this forum huh? | |
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| Must have some type of military background, or participates in a malitia. | |
| gr33nd4yg1rl 2002-12-17, 12:19 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile
oh.
sh*t! | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-17, 9:53 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by mindmesh
Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile
Saddam, is that you again? | |
| TW2001 2002-12-17, 2:57 pm |
| ROFL....keep em coming ruscorp. | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-17, 3:12 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by TW2001
ROFL....keep em coming ruscorp.
I'll try my hardness for you T-Dubya. | |
| mindmesh 2002-12-17, 7:43 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ccaya
Must have some type of military background, or participates in a malitia.
I watch the news too much.. | |
| mindmesh 2002-12-17, 7:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Saddam, is that you again?
Damn American's caught me again!!!!  | |
| iggy4270 2002-12-18, 12:55 am |
| I tried to intall Solaris Xfree on my Thinkpad and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't boot, then I finally found a small very hard to find statement in Sun's tech support page that it couldn't be done.  | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 10:48 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by iggy4270
I tried to intall Solaris Xfree on my Thinkpad and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't boot, then I finally found a small very hard to find statement in Sun's tech support page that it couldn't be done.
Thanks, it's great to know I'm not alone.  | |
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| ccieToBe 2002-12-18, 1:12 pm |
| So now your laptop won't boot off of anything - not even the floppy drive? What if you disconnect the hard drive, will it boot from the floppy drive then? I didn't think the FreeBSD installation process touched anything other then the hd. Even if it fubars the hd, it seems like you should be able to just delete all the partitions. | |
| ccieToBe 2002-12-18, 1:15 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by iggy4270
I tried to intall Solaris Xfree on my Thinkpad and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't boot, then I finally found a small very hard to find statement in Sun's tech support page that it couldn't be done.
Solaris is a lot more picky with x86 hardware then FreeBSD is. I can't believe this happend, or IBM's response. How can they be so pro-Linux, yet not even offer a fix for when their hardware pukes over FreeBSD? | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-12-18, 1:22 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
Solaris is a lot more picky with x86 hardware then FreeBSD is. I can't believe this happend, or IBM's response. How can they be so pro-Linux, yet not even offer a fix for when their hardware pukes over FreeBSD?
That is true of closed-source UNIX in general. Is usually very fussy hardwarily speaking. As for IBM . . . not sure what to think about all of that. I do think that maybe a lot for their support for Linux is due to Linux's recent popularity . . . recall that at one time, IBM was as loathed in the industry as MS is now. They have not always been very customer-friendly. I think we need to separate that marketing hype from geinuine interest. | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 1:25 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
So now your laptop won't boot off of anything - not even the floppy drive? What if you disconnect the hard drive, will it boot from the floppy drive then? I didn't think the FreeBSD installation process touched anything other then the hd. Even if it fubars the hd, it seems like you should be able to just delete all the partitions.
Nope, totally it's unbootable. | |
| enforcer 2002-12-18, 2:24 pm |
| what if you replace the HD
if so looks like it does somthing to the BIOS which is a big worry, even on non-IBM pc's | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 2:30 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
what if you replace the HD
It works then. | |
| enforcer 2002-12-18, 2:33 pm |
| so what's the problem then, slave old drive in a desktop (with 2.5 /3.5) adapter and fdisk it | |
| Mr. Linux Guy 2002-12-18, 2:33 pm |
| I've never heard of an OS install destorying a HDD before. | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 2:35 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Linux Guy
I've never heard of an OS install destorying a HDD before.
For whatever reason it may be FreeBSD destroys and IBM Thinkpad a20 series hdd and renders it unbootable by any means. No idea why. | |
| ccieToBe 2002-12-18, 2:37 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
It works then.
Wait a minute. So you're saying that if you unplug the hd it still won't boot off the floppy drive, but if you replace it it will? | |
| ccieToBe 2002-12-18, 2:38 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by enforcer
so what's the problem then, slave old drive in a desktop (with 2.5 /3.5) adapter and fdisk it
That's what I would try. | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 2:40 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ccieToBe
Wait a minute. So you're saying that if you unplug the hd it still won't boot off the floppy drive, but if you replace it it will?
Correct!
enforcer's is worth a try, however is probably too much money. | |
| enforcer 2002-12-18, 2:48 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by ruscorp
Correct!
enforcer's is worth a try, however is probably too much money.
How is it too much money, the adapters can be got for £5 approx $8 | |
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| ruscorp 2002-12-18, 2:55 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by maxmax79
Here is one for $12http://www.cablesnmor.com/hard-drive-converter.html
Wow! No idea you could do that with laptop hdds since each is manufacturer specific. Damn ThinkPad is even picky with RAM. | |
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| Tech Ranger 2002-12-22, 8:15 am |
| You are saying that if you repartition and reformat the hdd, and sys it with another OS, it won't boot? | |
| fmusick 2002-12-22, 10:18 am |
| So, in general is this a laptop thing or an IBM thing? Just curious. Would it be more likely for this to happen on an IBM desktop or another company's laptop.
Mr. Linux Guy is right. At one time IBM had the lockdown on hardware. They were more expensive and had worse tech support than most of their competitors but large industries still bought them by the truckload. The big name made them feel all warm and fuzzy inside I guess.
I say it's not the monopolies that are guilty but the CTOs and CIOs that keep buying. | |
| ruscorp 2002-12-22, 12:44 pm |
| quote:
Originally posted by Tech Ranger
You are saying that if you repartition and reformat the hdd, and sys it with another OS, it won't boot?
Haven't tried it yet because it's a laptop hdd. However everyone is saying to slave it and destroy the partitions an reformat. |
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