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lburns

2001-08-28, 10:08 pm

Hello everyone...I have a questions..
If you were building your own system..what processor do you think is better between AMD Celeron, Intel etc. Any advice from personal experience, personal preference and reasons will be appreciated. I am thinking about building my own system and I have heard different views on each processor and would like other opinions.
'thanks:
Azam

2001-08-28, 10:41 pm

Get a Intel P3, almost ALL s/w is compatible with it. AMD is also a nice choice. As for a celeron, never ever get a celeron! Its way too slow, and doesn't allow you to multitask very easily without it getting locked up.

And P4's area huge waste of money! You will see no major difference b/w the P4 2 GHZ or a P3 1 GHZ.

But if you do high tech stuff like rendering then get a dual intel xeon

P3's are VERY cheap now since they just introduced the P4 2 Gig almost all cpu's have dropped in price tremendously. So now is a great time to buy one! Also, make sure you get no less then 256 MB of ram, PC 133 or 150 if your mobo handles it. And make sure you get a Asus motherboard, thats the only kind of mobo I buy. Gigabit mobo's are also pretty sweet.

Good Luck

Azam
BootData

2001-08-29, 6:12 am

a friend told me that PIII 1Gig is slower than AMD750?
dunno if this is the truth...
lburns

2001-08-29, 6:42 am

My computer that I presently use is a Compaq AMd..it's ok, but I find that some software will not run on it. Why is it that there is more software geared for the Intel-based processors than the AMD and others..
dmaftei

2001-08-29, 6:55 am

quote:
Originally posted by lburns
If you were building your own system..what processor do you think is better between AMD Celeron, Intel etc.

AMDs are close to Intels in terms of performance (in some areas even better), and they are much cheaper.

I have only AMDs at home: a Compaq laptop and two desktops that I put together: a K6 at 233 and a K6-II at 450. The parts for another two desktops are on their way: a Duron at 750 and a Duron at 900.

So, guess what I would recommend...
echidna

2001-08-29, 7:44 am

AMD definitely gives more bang for the buck, and they don't have the compatibility problems that plagued them in the past.

Check out the below article. It compares the performance of an AMD 1.4 GHz Athlon and the new Pentium 4 2.0 GHz. Surprisingly, the performance is markedly similar - even for processor-intensive applications.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1524
WildBill

2001-08-29, 11:03 am

Go AMD all the way. Works as well or better than anything Intel has out for a heck of a lot less. Avoid the Celerons, not only are they still over priced, the older motherboards are pretty brutal as well.(The new E810e boards are better, but have a lot of on board garbage)

The new Duron 900 are very nice at a great price right now, and so are the 1.1 Gigs.
If I were you and trying to build a decent system at a good price I would buy a smaller processor, and add more RAM(a stick of PC 133 at 256 MG's is cheaper than a 128 stick at the moment). I would also suggest you pay the difference for a faster hard drive(7200 rpm over the standard 5400 rpm)if you plan on doing a lot of burning or game playing.
lburns

2001-08-29, 11:22 am

Ok that helps...now what about DVD, CD-R or CD rom...should I consider a CD-R and CD-Rom or just go with one or the other. I would like to use a burner to back up and make music you know...just trying to decide how to go about all this..any help or information will be apppreciated.
Azam

2001-08-29, 12:52 pm

Get a CDRW, I really like the TDK veloCD, very nice looking and a great product.

Get a dvd if you are going to watch movies on your pc, I have a couple of dvd roms that I never use

Like I said you will REALLY need a cdrw, they are very cheap and worth it.

You also may want to get 2 drives, a cdrom and a cdrw, so you haev more flexibility when installing stuff, so you dont have to take a cd out and then put the other cd in and then take that cd out and put in the original cd again!! Thats why I got 2+ drives in my pc's.

Azam
exar07

2001-08-29, 12:59 pm

I have built PCs with both Processors and I prefer AMD. Even though so many things are geared for Intel, I still like the performance of the AMD.

AMD is my choice!
Bobby Digital

2001-08-29, 1:27 pm

I personally use and recommend AMD processors. I have never had a software or hardware compatibility problem using them.

The choice between Pentiums and Athlons is personal preference. You can't go wrong with either processor. If you are considering a Celeron, I would recommend taking a look at AMD Durons which are relatively chip nowadays (check all CPU prices at www.pricewatch.com).

My advice, unless you want the latest and greatest and have the money to spend, stick with the AMD Athlon. If you want a Intel processor, a PIII will work just fine.

(If you are building test systems to play around with I would go as cheap as possible--AMD K6-2 processors)

As far as the CD-ROM option goes, I don't not recommend DVD-ROMs(yet) because there is really no DVD software on the market to justify buying one. As far as movies goes, it is better to invest in a DVD player for your TV than to try to watch movies on a computer.

I agree with Azam as far as having a CD-ROM and a CD-RW in your system. You'll have a lot more flexibility.

Good luck
BD
ccieToBe

2001-08-29, 5:29 pm

I recommend going with AMD, but that's only because Intel's more expensive. Performance wise neither one's that far ahead of the other. Pentium 4s really are well designed chips, but there's not that much software out yet that supports its best features. If you're heavily into graphics or obsessed with Quake I could see the advantage of going with a P3/P4 system, but otherwise I recommend AMD. The cache size really does make a huge difference, so if you're getting an Athlon be sure to get a Thunderbird instead of a Duron. My system use to have a 600MHz Duron, and when I upgraded to a 1.1GHz Thunderbird (no other changes) the performance difference was huge.

As far as what optical drives to get, I recommend getting a CDRW drive. I'm sure mine's saved me hundreds of dollars and a lot of time. I have a DVD too, but almost never use it, so I recommend against getting one of those.

Remember, a system's processor usually isn't the bottleneck. Be sure to load up on RAM and get a good harddrive.
vizard

2001-08-31, 7:03 am

never used AMD but yes intel is much much better then celeron so go for either intel or amd but dont buy celeron it can bear much of the load cd rw sony or hp are good ones i am using sony never gave me a problem
WildBill

2001-08-31, 9:34 am

The standard 8 speed DVD that comes with most computers is okay, but if you are planning to run it to your TV the connection package(TV Out)almost never comes with it. The end result is watching a DVD solely on your computer (BOY IS THAT FUN), or paying a pile of cash for the additional wiring.

Also I would avoid the DVD/CDRW combo's that are out there for the moment. While priced OK the software can give a programmer a head ache, exceedingly quick, let alone us mere mortals.

In regards to AMD over Intel software compatibility issues you can go with a AMD. The reason most people think Intel is better is because until last year, almost all major companies did write to the Intel processors.
However, with most major computer companies now using AMD processors the problem is likely to be minimized or gone in the next six months to a year.
The only holdouts to the software issues are long time partners(IBM for one) who are still backing Intel. I can't be sure but I think this will change too in the next year or so.

P.S. Compacts are good for offices, but the parts are Compact/affliated companies specific. Translatlion: Expect delays in repairs, and stop at the cash machine before you pick it back up, because you will probably need the extra cash. Most parts for are VERY VERY EXPENSIVE. Keep this in mind when buying a computer you to keep for a few years.
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