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IT news you hate to hear: probably a newer windows os
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| you guys are ready to support Windows XP yet. to stay "so-called" current, we are forced to do it. tired of the IT industry yet? thinking about changing career? | |
| imran1430 2001-05-11, 4:00 pm |
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Originally posted by EP-3
tired of the IT industry yet? thinking about changing career?
nope | |
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| Hey, there's always UNIX! | |
| dentonb2000 2001-05-11, 4:50 pm |
| There is still Novell for those that are intersted... | |
| Firebird81 2001-05-11, 5:07 pm |
| Yeah with Unix and Novell, you'd probably actually be able to get a decent paying job. | |
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Originally posted by Firebird81
Yeah with Unix and Novell, you'd probably actually be able to get a decent paying job.
do you still feel comfortable as an IT support people that you dont know the latest windows os well?
suppose one day your son comes to you and say dad my pc is not working, can you fix it? then you go to his room just to find out it is running the latest windows os. next you tell your son this: daddy works with unix and novell only, sorry son. lets take it to the pc repair shop nearby. but dad you told me you make a living by working with computers. all my classmates know how to fix it.
by the way, unix/novell certification is not for life either. | |
| Watchdog 2001-05-11, 7:34 pm |
| EP-3,
The constant change in the information technology industry is what makes it so interesting. I think information technology has a long way to go. I just hope some of those significant technological advances are made in my lifetime and I get a chance to be a part of it.
Without change life would be a dull hum.
Watchdog | |
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| not sure how old you are. once you are married and gets older, may be with some little ones, you will know what i mean. | |
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| If you don’t want to deal with the constant changes aren’t you in the wrong industry? | |
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Originally posted by Chas1
If you don’t want to deal with the constant changes aren’t you in the wrong industry?
not sure how old you are. once you are married and gets older, may be with some little ones, you will know what i mean.
hope you will tell the whole world the same thing when you are married with children. | |
| Firebird81 2001-05-11, 8:10 pm |
| Actually, Ep-3 I am up with all of the latest windows versions and will always be. See, it is my firm belief that no IT career should start without A+ hardware/software support experience. It's the basis for all things computer. BTW, I've never seen a new version of WIndows that wasn't easy to adapt to if you had any serious experience working with the previous WIndows versions. | |
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| i think we are talking about engineer level recertifications like cne, mcse, ccnp, etc not entry level certification like mcp, cna, a+. Indeed, recertification is not required at this level.
imagine a married man with 2 children who has to keep himself up-to-date by recertification for 3 or more vendors . can you imagine how heavy that can be?
by the way, have you guys heard of the ms accelerated windows 2000 exam? | |
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| netware 6 is coming as well. cne 5, get ready for recertification yet??? | |
| Paisleyskye 2001-05-11, 9:03 pm |
| Before I got into this business I was told very frankly not to consider IT a career that would carry me into retirement unless I was willing to continue training and learning for my entire working career.
When we get into IT we make a commitment to continue learning each new thing as it comes out - if we don't we become obsolete.
I find learning each new thing an exciting adventure and I don't think I'll tire of it anytime soon. | |
| Watchdog 2001-05-11, 9:52 pm |
| Hey, I am one of those married guys with 3 kids, a dog, a mortgage, 1 hour commute to work and 1 hour back home.
EP-3, you are right having to recertify every couple of years will interfere with you family life, but most professions have continuing professional education requirements and require recertify every couple of years.
Just be glad you are not in the accounting field. Every year congress passes new tax laws. Tax/accounting professionals must start interpreting congress intentions before congress passes the law, so they can advise their clients. -- Got off the subject again. Sleep must me calling me.
I have the time (15 minutes here, 15 minutes there) to learn new technology, but not in great detail. In order to thoroughly learn any technology without interfering with my family life, I just trade some sleep time for learning time. That is why I am dragging right now. By the end of the week, I'm pooped.
Later
Watchdog
this puppy is tired. | |
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Originally posted by Watchdog
but most professions have continuing professional education requirements and require recertify every couple of years.
Just be glad you are not in the accounting field. Every year congress passes new tax laws. Tax/accounting professionals must start interpreting congress intentions before congress passes the law, so they can advise their clients
doctors, lawyers & accountants are not required to recertify in general. only under very exceptional cases are they required to.
also, do you think something that is open book or close book makes a different? do you think one person or a group of people to solve a problem is easier ? | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-11, 11:13 pm |
| So, what is the point you are trying to make EP-3???? If you don't want to deal with recertification, don't get certified.
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BD | |
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| finally, someone gets my point and that is why i have no certification. but then people say you are out-dated.
look at it this way: where you are standing right now, there is a forest fire in front of you and right behind you it is a cliff. whether you go forward or backward, it is equally difficult.
i have enough on this subject. let me go back to think what i should do next. not IT most likely.
thanks for everyone's input. | |
| BlueBaron 2001-05-12, 12:58 am |
| EP3, sounds like you need a new profession. Tell me, what is your goal in visiting these certification-centric forums? | |
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Originally posted by EP-3
not sure how old you are. once you are married and gets older, may be with some little ones, you will know what i mean.
hope you will tell the whole world the same thing when you are married with children.
EP-3.
FYI. 39, Married, children, house, Dog, FT job, school, bla...bla...bla.  | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-12, 1:12 pm |
| Still EP-3, what is your point???
BD | |
| Unregistered 2001-05-12, 5:55 pm |
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Originally posted by EP-3
do you still feel comfortable as an IT support people that you dont know the latest windows os well?
suppose one day your son comes to you and say dad my pc is not working, can you fix it? then you go to his room just to find out it is running the latest windows os. next you tell your son this: daddy works with unix and novell only, sorry son. lets take it to the pc repair shop nearby. but dad you told me you make a living by working with computers. all my classmates know how to fix it.
by the way, unix/novell certification is not for life either.
1. If windows is your bag, then maybe that's what you should do, keep up with the Jones's or Gates' I should say. Just because your neighbor buys a new car every 2 years, do you feel you need to or you'll forget how to drive? Not likely.
2. Although I don't like windows, that doesn't mean I don't know how to use it or fix it. If I had a son, which I don't and like you say, all his classmates new how to "fix it" except my son, I would make him a better person by saying "Did you even attempt a solution?" to try to make him independant. Then next I would say "Go ask your friends", to teach him how to be resourceful.
3. Many Unix certs are for life. Take Sun for example, once you get certified as an admin in a specific version, you NEVER lose it?
In summary, many of us out there know how to deal with things, even though we don't like or need them.
Where the heck have you been?
Oh BTW, do you think maybe English 101 might help you out here? | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-13, 9:21 am |
| You still have not indicated a point to your thread EP-3.
BD | |
| rw2000 2001-05-13, 6:12 pm |
| Micro$ofts constant OS changes are what helped me decide to pursue my CCNA. I have an MCP in NT and plan on getting certified in Win2K server. I had just started the M$ track when all the exam retirements were announced so I didn't want to spend the time and money to pursue a cert that was only going to expire 10 months after achieving it. Novell is something I'm not interested in at all and probably will not pursue any certs in that area. Over the past 5 years, the places I've worked have all dropped Netware and with their internal problems and so forth I don't see a rosy picture for them over the next few years as far as capturing more marketshare. | |
| imran1430 2001-05-13, 11:49 pm |
| Very interesting discussion.
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Originally posted by Paisleyskye
Before I got into this business I was told very frankly not to consider IT a career that would carry me into retirement unless I was willing to continue training and learning for my entire working career.
When we get into IT we make a commitment to continue learning each new thing as it comes out - if we don't we become obsolete.
I find learning each new thing an exciting adventure and I don't think I'll tire of it anytime soon.
I can't agree with you more!
It might not be easy for someone to keep up with the "constantly changing" IT industry but I look at it as an adventure!
with a reward at the end. |
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