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Would you recommend MCSE 2000 ?
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| Unregistered 2001-05-05, 12:43 am |
| Hello,
I would like to get an advice on how well will MCSE 2000 be received by employers. Is it gonna be another MCSE 4.0 or what ? I already have an A + Cert & college Diploma. In Fact my A +
got me a job a field service Tech job with a system manufacturing Comp. Is MCSE 2000 worth going for it or not ? Should i be looking for something different than Microsoft Cert. I am looking forward to do Help Desk/ tech support Job in the future. Thank ...... | |
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| hmm, not really sure, but I've decided lately that I will be going for the MCSE. I have heard of Cisco's CCNA (I think thats right name), thats suppose to be very good iswell.
The only thing is that I've seen a lot and I mean a lot! of Cisco's equipment in the real world, so I am starting to have 2nd taughts about the MCSE as I don't think it is as realivent as the cisco certs  | |
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| The MCSE2K might be worth a bit until 2002, when it gets replaces by the MCSE Blackcomb or whatever they choose to call it. An MCSE is a rental, nothing more. From what I have seen the most valuable skills are UNIX, Cisco and Oracle. | |
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| BootData 2001-05-05, 8:47 am |
| i think it depends on what you want to do, and if you have the free time (which is a luxury) i think MCSE2000 is worth while to get
my two cents.. | |
| imran1430 2001-05-05, 9:15 am |
| Question: Would you recommend MCSE 2000?
Answer: NO | |
| kiwini 2001-05-05, 7:24 pm |
| Wanna throw your money away with MCSE? I am currently unemployed and in need of cash.
You are better off going the unix/cisco/oracle route if you want to spend your time and money wisely, and make more money in the long run.
If you decide on Unix, if you get Sun Certified System Administrator (SCSA) or Sun Certified Network Administrator (SCNA) in whatever version of Solaris, you will never lose that certification in that version.
If you are looking at it only from a perspective of how much it will cost for the tests alone, here is an example:
SCSA-7= 2(150)=300 bucks and that's it.
SCNA-7= 1(150)=150 bucks and that's it.
With Microsoft 2000 the NT4 dudes have to upgrade to Win2k or lose MCSE:
MCSE(fresh, no NT4 cert)= 7(100)= 700 bucks. When Micrsoft comes out with a new NT version every 3-5 years it will cost 100 bucks to upgrade, or 700 bucks again if taking all tests.
MCSE(NT4 holder)=100 bucks if only upgrading, or 700 bucks if all 7 tests are taken.
Hopefully you understand the Micro$$$$$ game now.
Plus, MCSE is already devalued, and salary levels are dropping for many MCSE payscales.
Unix Admins make:http://www.ticker.computerjobs.com/..._categoryID=102
Windows NT/2000 dudes make:
http://www.ticker.computerjobs.com/..._categoryID=107
See the big difference in payscales, and how much more Unix people make?
I also suggest getting a college Certficate in Unix Sys Admin to help bust you into the Unix Sys Admin field, in case Unix people are balking at SCSA, and would also like to see something from an accredited college.
Unless anybody has a better choice, my choice would be: http://xwing.cochise.cc.az.us/unixcert/
16 units at 62 bucks per unit, according to http://xwing.cochise.org/online-campus/fees.html and
http://xwing.cochise.org/online-campus/certificate.html that comes out to $992.00 + $15.00 registration=$1007.00 which is not that bad for a college Unix Admin Cetificate.
The college course forces one to complete assignments that are graded, which should inspire one to truly know the material rather than braindumping.
Okay, somebody give me some money so I can take that course. Hehehe. | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-05, 10:19 pm |
| Depends on the direction/career you are going to take. If you are looking at network and system administration then the MCSE would be a logical choice. If you are looking at network engineering or analyst then Cisco is a better route. If you really want to market yourself, include a little UNIX in the mix. | |
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If you really want to market yourself, include a little UNIX in the mix.
A LITTLE *nix indeed! Learn a LOT of Un*x and you'll be better off! I still don't trust M$ servers all that much. | |
| TW2001 2001-05-06, 8:54 am |
| If you couple experience with the MS cert you will do a lot better than those with the cert and no experience.That should seem elementary but unfortunately many people dont get that. I also think some people dont understand the massive difference between NT4 and 2000. This is the reason for the neccesary upgrade. The core of WIN2K is the AD which will be developed through the upcoming OS.Getting a firm footing in this technology now instead of whining about MS would be the smarter move. Technology will continue to evolve and so will the skills needed to support it. | |
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Originally posted by TW2001
I also think some people dont understand the massive difference between NT4 and 2000. This is the reason for the neccesary upgrade. The core of WIN2K is the AD which will be developed through the upcoming OS.Getting a firm footing in this technology now instead of whining about MS would be the smarter move.
Wise words ! | |
| Bobby Digital 2001-05-06, 8:29 pm |
| You a funny guy Kiwini :-)
If you are in a primarily Microsoft environment, the MCSE is still a logical choice. If you are in a primarily Novell environment, the CNE would be the logical choice. If you were in a primarily UNIX environment (pick your flavor), a UNIX certification would be the better choice.
It depends on the direction you are going AND what you will untilize on the job. |
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