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| sean34 2001-12-18, 3:00 pm |
| All,
I was just wondering if anybody has every had a manager who constantly shoots down certifications? I kinda got that situation at work and it blows my freakin' mind. The bottom line with certifications is you are learning...isnt that the name of the game? learning, growing, and developing some skillz. I feel like this dude is putting limits on his own employees, Im not the tallest tree in the woods but this cant be a good strategy...I dont get it maybe cuz Im jsut starting out in this game and Im not quite up on the politics of it all...
just kinda want to get your thoughts...oh and btw the cert in question is the CCIE, which makes me even more questionable of this guys interests.
anyway, i could go on but breaks over...
Peace out
Sean34 | |
| Nicole 2001-12-18, 3:47 pm |
| I can think of a few reasons:
1) Sick and tired of techs who whine about how fabulous they are because they memorized a few braindumps and passed an exam.
2) Sick and tired of requests for raises based on certifications irrelevant to the job at hand.
3) Feels insecure because he's never put in the effort to learn the material to pass a certification.
4) Running on a tight budget and can't afford to contribute toward employer's policy of compensating for education.
But I personally think it's:
5) Horribly afraid someone will find out that he's incompetant (true or not), so has to continously out others down. | |
| peterd 2001-12-19, 4:04 am |
| Hi,
certification helps you to get a job, not to do it. Learning, and getting up to the required standard to be able to pass an exam, is what you need to be able to do your job. The certificate just proves to others that you've reached a particular skill level.
If you have a job then your current manager probably doesn't want you to get extra certificates as then you could be tempted to move on, creating more work for him/her as they then have to replace you.
It's a culture that exists in many places. We have a similar problem here, no money for courses/books, etc (although they do pay for exams).
The other problem in a lot of places is that that IT managers seem to be rather young and some of them haven't got past the stage where they /have/ to be seen as the best in all things.
To prove that they're the best they'll put everyone else down. They generally lose this after they pass 30 years of age...
although some don't!
All you can do is keep up to your own standards and keep pushing on. One or two of the guys who've left my current employer for better jobs have said afterwards that they didn't realise how much they actually knew about their work until they moved to a more enlightened employer and started getting encouragement rather than being put down all the time...
Regards
Peter | |
| prkshtdvr 2001-12-19, 4:25 am |
| What U all suggest is that constantly getting certifications is a lot of time consuming job. But my experience is that irrespective of all the different certifications the basic logic is the same and if U use some of it maybe by the congregation of all of them U will be a master in the one U really like. Also it will never stop U from handling things where the environment is a heterogenous one.
Hope U all take this certification bussiness positively. | |
| Hootie 2001-12-21, 12:33 am |
| "Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em longer".
Enough said. |
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