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confused (MSCE or CCNA-CCIE)
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| Can somebody out there help me decide which is better to take MCSE or CCNA(not about the money). | |
| bertram 2000-06-28, 4:08 am |
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Originally posted by cmos80:
Can somebody out there help me decide which is better to take MCSE or CCNA(not about the money).
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| What do you want to be when you grow up? What kind of work would you like to be doing? | |
| elwatson 2000-08-03, 3:36 pm |
| I am in a similar quandry. I have been doing a lot of reading and researching the past several months on both certifications. I am looking to return to work and do not want to go back to my old job.
The IT industry is hot and with the right skills one can write their own ticket. As the person prior to me said, it depends on what you want to be when you grow up.
Do like I did---research and read and skim the books on the various certifications. After looking at MCSE, CNE, etc. I began to realize that they were product specific, and I wanted something more broader. To me N+ was not technical enough but it did cover all the NOSs (network operating systems). Then it dawned on me. CISCO--they cover all the bases...INTERNETWORKING is where it is really at. Look at this way.
Everywhere I look and read, Novell and Unix handle the "stratosphere" of networking and NT is now challenging them with NT5 aka 2000. But, "integration" is what is all about simply because the big boys (Fortune 500) all have different systems installed. Next, the internet is the wave of the future. Microsoft new strategic direction will be on the "thin client" side which means you will have your software on the net and not on your desktop. Hmmmm!!!! Sounds like CITRIX also(check them out too).
Cisco ties all of these systems in together with their routers and switches, and Citrix is the future with thin client.
I try not to follow the herd myself as Einstein once said. The wave too me is Cisco and Citrix certification. Once again...
CISCO & CITRIX Certification...DARE TO BE DIFFERENT...You will be a specialist par excellence. Get something no one else has but still learn enough about Novell and NT.
Oh and do not forget Linux. They are where Microsoft was ten years ago compared to Novell in the networking arena.
Hope my long winded advice helped. | |
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| Which one do I recommend? It's based on what you want to do. If you are more towards network and system administration, pick MCSE. If you prefer network design and engineering, pick the CCIE.
Why not both? Look at it like this...you will have both and hardware certification(Cisco) AND a software certification(MCSE). It would make you marketable in the IT field.
One way to go, study for your CCNA first. Then after getting the CCNA certification, start on your MCSE. After earning your MCSE, start on your CCDA and then move up the ladder(CCNP and CCDP)to the CCIE. Oh yeah, don't forget to get some hands-on experience along the way. This would make a valuable asset to any organization.
Pursuing the CCIE alone would be valuable(There are about 4,500 CCIE worldwide compared to 150,000+ MCSE worldwide. Do the math). If you are fortunate enough to earn the CCIE, a prospective employer KNOWS that you have actual hands-on experience with Cisco products. Microsoft is trying to set up their certification program to reach that level and value.
It's on what you want to do.
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I would say what to take depend on your career goal and knowledge. Some people good with software and some don't. It really depend on your ability.
Why not both? I.T field is not something that you take the certification and will become one. When people taking about taking this and that, do you know how many sleepless night and work experiences they been throught to pass it.
Take the cert that you feel comfortable. MSCE or Cisco are not easy if you had no knowledge on basic network and hardware.
Do not think of the number of people passing? Think can you pass it.
Do you have to the ability to pass? Try few time. If is not working out. Those cert is not for you to have it.
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| Kasor, I disagree with you on some points. It's all based on your determination. If you REALLY want to get into the IT field, you are going have to work hard and have some sleepless nights.
I'm not that wild about the idea of certifications as a "gauge" on who to hire, but if someone is serious about getting into the field they are work hard. They have to decide not only what they want to do, but also if they want a job or a career.
Personally, I would say go to school, earn a degree (Associates or Bachelors), get a job in the field, seek certification(s) and go from there. Yes he needs to find his niche, whether it is software or hardware and go from there. |
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